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Post  Ev Thu 10 Jun - 9:34

Last week I was checking out Val Hewson's box of shop scrap books and cuttings at Te Toi Uku.
I had seen this several years ago, when it arrived at the Museum, but this time there was something I hadn't noticed before.......
A page of vases that were Titian shapes and then made by Crown Lynn and given four digit numbers.
This was very enlightening, as the shapes didn't match what I had worked out from the written Four Digit records !!!
Here is the page of vases courtesy of Te Toi Uku:

titian - New info re Titian Four Digit Vases 2110 and 2111 2078_210

I'm quite sure that this record is 100% correct and I have misinterpreted the written records.  Trying to find one of these vases in a collection that have the four digit number on them and then I will change the Gallery photos.

2078 is correct as the written record had the Titian number was PB.104
2081 is correct as it corresponds to the written record of was Titian PB.100

The other three vases didn't have the Titian numbers added, but had a three digit number, that I figured was the old Crown Lynn number as were many of the others that were made after 1964 when the four digit system was used.  I was wrong on these shapes apparently!


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Post  Ev Fri 11 Jun - 16:30

Thanks to mumof1 for checking out these shapes for us cheers

Shapes 2078, 2081 and 2109 are correct in the Gallery.

Here is the 2110 Wide Mouth Vase which is the Titian shape SB203 thanks to mumof1

titian - New info re Titian Four Digit Vases 2110 and 2111 211010

What a revelation!!!

Anne will also hopefully supply us with the 2111 Trough even though she only has a Titian one.
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Post  mumof1 Sat 12 Jun - 13:48

Ev, the photo you have as 'under investigation' is the CL #107, so should be correct for the 2111 I think.
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Post  Ev Sat 12 Jun - 14:04

That's what I thought when I added that shape to the Gallery several years ago, but now I have no idea what the 107 means.
This new found info shows a Titian shape TNB 300 trough for Shape 2111.
There is nobody to ask, but if you look at the other shapes around this one you will see other odd numbers too.
I have just copied what the written records say, as I want to keep it all as original.
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Post  Ev Thu 14 Oct - 9:54

Shape 2111 Trough courtesy of Julie C cheers

This shape was made by Titian prior to the Crown Lynn takeover.

titian - New info re Titian Four Digit Vases 2110 and 2111 2111_10
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