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Post  newbie on Tue 16 Nov - 16:03

Hi there, new to all this...I have 431r. Will need to take clear photo for your website. Please advise who/how to upload. Also have mystery piece marked BNB 305, looks like Crown Lynn maybe? Can't any info on this shape. Cheers! afro

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Post  Ev on Tue 16 Nov - 16:15

Oh Wow the 431r is the Three Faces of Eve isn't it newbie?
We would love to put a pic of that into the Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery !!
We have a topic in Members Information about how to load photos.
Though as it seems to be a huge mountain to climb for newcomers -
You can alternatively send photos to newzealandpottery@gmail.com
and I will load and credit you with any photos you send if you like.
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Post  newbie on Tue 16 Nov - 18:17

It certainly is, my beloved lamp :loveit: I will e-mail you some pixs tomorrow. Cheers!

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Post  Ev on Sun 6 Feb - 17:40

Here we are again Tony..... some new pics for the Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery Very Happy

570 - replaces Museum pic - thanks to Thelma Smile

572 - replaces Museum pic - thanks to Thelma Smile

760 - replaces Museum pic - many thanks Ev Very Happy

767 - new shape - thanks to mrnarna Very Happy

770 - replaces Museum pic - thanks to mrnarna Smile
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Post  Ev on Sun 13 Feb - 18:11

Thanks for updating the list Tony -
I can see the Photos we do have is growing steadily Very Happy
I'm starting another list now .... no hurry..

468 - New Shape - thanks to Marl474 Very Happy

771-5 New Shape - Ev's pic

805 - Photo replaces Museum pic - Ev's pic

731 - New Shape - thanks to mrnarna bounce

732 - New Shape - thanks to HeatherT Very Happy

311 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to ynotbrich Smile

611 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to ynotbrich Very Happy

721 - New shape - thanks to ynotbrich bounce

123-8 - New shape - thanks to ynotbrich Very Happy


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Post  Ev on Mon 14 Mar - 18:32

The Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery is slowly growing, thanks to our dedicated members Very Happy
As there is no complete list of shapes we have to rely of members to find those pieces that are numbered in the Crown Lynn way .... or use other avenues to nut them out eg: the Auckland Museum Crown Lynn records have turned up quite a few. Will have to make more visits until that avenue is exhausted.
Keep those shapes coming in everyone as it helps us all and that's what this site is really all about - people helping other people .... sharing and caring Very Happy
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Post  Ev on Wed 6 Apr - 16:57

Thanks for updating the list Tony Smile
Another list under way already Very Happy

312 - Photo replaces Museum pic .... thanks to Ev Wink

313 - Photo replaces Museum pic .... thanks to Ev Smile

736 - New Shape - thanks to narna Very Happy

356 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to nicrick from TradeMe Very Happy

322 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 Very Happy

103 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to DaSiEm Very Happy

197 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Manos Very Happy

651 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 and Richmond Antiques Very Happy Very Happy

501 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to squeak43 from Trademe Very Happy

609 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to a Private Collector


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Post  Ev on Thu 15 Sep - 21:08

Bumps for Tony to see the post above .....
Will start another list now Smile
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Post  Ev on Mon 7 Nov - 18:54

Not sure if Tony saw the above post .... but here we go again

660 -photo replaces Museum pic ... thanks to witchione Smile

420 - photo replaces Museum pic ... thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

761 - photo replaces Museum pic .... thanks to Jonno cheers

781 - new shape .... photo thanks to narna Very Happy

623 - photo replaces Museum drawing .. thanks to hon-john cheers

514 - new shape ... photo from Ev Smile

310 - Photo replaces Museum pic ... thanks to sid Very Happy

146 - New Shape .... thanks to sid Smile

147 - New Shape .... thanks to sid Smile

401 - New Shape ... thanks to sid Smile

09 - photo replaces Sparrow pic .. thanks to Bendoy Smile

110 - photo replaces sketch ... thanks to Bendoy Smile

111 - Photo replaces sketch .. thanks to Bendoy Smile

512 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to Bendoy Smile

552 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to Bendoy Smile

361 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to mumof1 Very Happy

777 - Photo replaces Museum pic .. thanks to Manos Smile


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Post  Ev on Wed 14 Mar - 15:21

Bumps for Tony ....
Almost a year since the missing shapes have been updated and we have ....
6 New Shapes and 21 photos that have replaced the Museum pics to add Very Happy

Another for you arrived today from mumof1 Very Happy Very Happy

567 - photo replaces Museum pic thanks to sunshine :party:
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Post  Ev on Sun 25 Mar - 8:12

Many thanks Tony Smile
It is great to see that progress is continuing to be made cheers
Starting another list now and will just continue to add to it when new pics arrive.

628 - photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 sunny

143 - New shape - thanks to sid Very Happy

88 - New shape - provided by Ev cheers

601 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to aggie1968 Very Happy

668 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to mumof1 sunny

392 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 sunny

616 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to the generosity of nickgane cheers

120 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to mumof1 sunny

109 - New shape - thanks to mumof1 cheers

787 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to Manos Crown Lynn Shapes 1 - 881 What's missing? - Page 2 732112

499 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 bounce

854 - New shape - thanks to mrnarna :)I found the sauceboat saucer number Very Happy

712 - New shape - thanks to TonyK Wink

741/10 - New Shape thanks to Marl474 Very Happy

868 - New shape - thanks to Marl474 Very Happy

873 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Marl Very Happy

874 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Marl Very Happy

875 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Marl Very Happy

869 - New Shape - thanks to Marl cheers

870 - New Shape - thanks to Marl Very Happy

733 - New Shape - thanks to mrnarna Very Happy

800 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to mrnarna Very Happy

551 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Bendoy Smile

521 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Lets Go Retro Very Happy

16 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to sid cheers

78 - New Shape - many thanks to sid cheerscheers

449 - New Shape - Thanks to Ev Wink

425 - Photo replaces Museum drawing - thanks to Kat & Co Very Happy

428 - Photo replaces Museum drawing - thanks to sueellen [this was in as 423, but has been corrected with Kat & Co's photo.]

602 - Photo replaces Museum drawing - thanks to mumof1 sunny

473 - New Shape - Thanks to Kat & Co cheers

606 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to connections 126 Smile

728 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Ev Smile

637 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 sunny

735 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Ev ....


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Post  Ev on Thu 7 Feb - 8:47

Fantastic progress going on in the Crown Lynn Shapes Gallery since last March !!
13 New Shapes have been added and
22 shapes have been replaced with photos
thanks to all of our wonderful pottery hunters and gatherers cheers
Still a long way to go, but it's fun and gives a purpose to collecting in my opinion jocolor
Another list will be started now Tony, as I ran out of page with the previous list ......
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Post  TonyK on Sat 9 Feb - 2:24

Excellent work Ev. I've updated the What's missing? list.
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Post  Ev on Sun 24 Feb - 8:59

Starting another list for you Tony and what a way to start out .....

65 - photo replaces sketch - grateful thanks to foveaux cheers

634 - photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sunny sunny

656 - photo replaces sketch - thanks to sunshine sunny

657 - photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to sunny sunny

472 - New Shape - many thanks to Bendoy cheers

601 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to de_la_cours cheers

321 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to de_la_cours Smile

648 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to sunny sunny

652 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to sunshine sunny

362 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof1 sunny

319 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to mumof 1 sunny

418 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

579 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss Very Happy:D

355 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

363 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

422 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to haselnuss cheers

852 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to haselnuss cheers

580 - NEW SHAPE - thanks to Kat & Co  cat

778 - New Shape - thanks to sunshine sunny

518 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sid Very Happy

766 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks Ev Smile

739 - New Shape - Photo courtesy of Cat-a-lat Smile

456 - Photo replaces sketch - thanks to sunshine cheers

768 - Photo replaces Museum pic ...... thanks to Ev YAY!

816 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to Heather for the pic Smile

06 - Photo replaces Museum pic ..... thanks to mumof1 cheers

527 - Photo replaces Museum pic..... thank you Ev Wink

569 - Photo replaces sketch .... thanks to Sunshine sunny

828 - Photo replaces sketch ..... thanks to sunny sunny


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Post  Ev on Sat 29 Jun - 10:00

With a total of 31 photos added - 24 photos replaced and 7 new shapes its time to start again!  Brilliant stuff and many thanks to everyone who contributed cheers
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Post  Ev on Thu 4 Jul - 17:02

Here we go again and a new shape to start things off is awesome!

471 - NEW SHAPE - many thanks to mumof1 sunny

560 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to dollcrown Very Happy

561 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to dollcrown Very Happy

562 -  NEW SHAPE many thanks to dollcrown cheers

415 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks heaps to Kat & Co cheers

84 - photo  replaces museum pic - many thanks to sunny sunny

847 - NEW SHAPE it's a butter pat supplied by Ev Smile

876 - NEW SHAPE lid to 868 Ramekin supplied by Ev Smile

639 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sunny sunny

638 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to sunshine sunny

520 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to vanee from Trademe Very Happy

789 & 708 Lid - NEW SHAPES thanks to Jeremy Ashford Very Happy

485 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Kat & Co cat

839 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Sue Carmount and Ev

845-8 NEW SHAPE thanks to Kat & Co and Jim cheers

848/1 - Photo replaces Museum pic - thanks to Kat & Co cat

783 - NEW SHAPE - thanks to photo from TonyK

863 - [NEW SHAPE] - courtesy of hendelglass cheers

866 - NEW SHAPE - Many thanks to Ev Very Happy
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Post  Ev on Thu 2 Jan - 16:44

Ok we are ready to start another list for the New Year.
Well done and many thanks to everyone who contributed to our Shapes Galleries during the last 6 months.
10 NEW SHAPES were found and 10 MUSEUM PICS were replaced cheerscheerscheers
Awesome! Fantastic! Keep up the good work!

700 - New Shape Many thanks to Kat & Co Smile

417 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Kat & Co and Hendelglass Very Happy

127/8 - New Shape thanks to hon-john.  An oversight!

581 - NEW SHAPE thanks to mumof1 Very Happy

497 - NEW SHAPE thanks so much to mumof1 sunny

747 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Kat & Co cat

183 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy Smile

184 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jeremy .....

772 NEW SHAPE thanks again to Jeremy Very Happy

250 & 251 NEW SHAPES  thanks to haselnuss cheers

744 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy Very Happy

734 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy Very Happy

774 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy Very Happy

773 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Jeremy Very Happy

844 - New Shape thanks to Jeremy Ashford cheers
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Post  Ev on Mon 16 Jun - 13:32

Starting another list as 6 months have flown by again!!
We have added another 9 New Shapes and 7 Museum photos have been replaced during this time.  Well done everybody it's forever onwards and upwards cheers
Fantastic effort !!

583 NEW SHAPE thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

624 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss cheers

25 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Ev bounce

650 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to mumof1 cheers

629 - NEW SHAPE thanks to mountainman and mumof1 Very Happy

563 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Manos Smile

142 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev cheers

829 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselness cheers

427 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Kat & Co cat

860 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev and Janpots Very Happy

859 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev Very Happy

808 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to sid Very Happy

780 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev

702 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Bendoy Smile
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Post  Ev on Thu 1 Jan - 10:25

Here we are going for another spin around the sun for 2015 !!
Starting a new list for the New Year and during the last six months we have added
9 NEW SHAPES and 5 MUSEUM PHOTOS WERE REPLACED cheers
Keep up the great work everyone as there are still many shapes for the Crown Lynn 01 to 881 Gallery to be found Very Happy

479 - Photo from Ev replaces Museum pic cheers

493 - NEW SHAPE supplied by Ev Smile

70 - NEW SHAPE  thanks to haselnuss

752 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

58 - NEW SHAPE many thanks to mike67 I love you

05 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Zana Very Happy

545 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss cheers

511 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to 8omnia8 cheers

821 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Ev Very Happy

822 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks Ev Wink

674 - Photo replaces Museum pic Thanks again Ev geek

492 - Photo replaces Museum pic Thanks to sunshine cheers cheers cheers

531 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to haselnuss bounce

778 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev Very Happy

802 - Photo has replaced incorrect Museum pic thanks to Portage Museum Smile

193 - NEW SHAPE monkey has now been added thanks to a private collector.
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Post  Ev on Mon 1 Jun - 8:25

Another very productive 6 months of finding new shapes and replacing Museum pics for the 01 to 881 Gallery!  5 NEW SHAPES were added and 11 MUSEUM PICS were replaced with real photos from members, which is an amazing effort.  Keep it up guys as we keep making excellent progress with this endeavour thank you everyone!

737 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Heather and the Auckland Museum cheers

733 - NEW SHAPE replaces the incorrect shape that we had.

760 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage info and supplied by Ev Very Happy

732 and 776 Sugar Basins and the 728 Beaker now have shape numbers that have been reused, so there are two different shapes for these numbers!

790 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Janice Cool

804 - Photo replaces Museum pic Whoooop whoop !!

716 - Photo replaces Museum pic [thanks to Lindsay155] Smile

163 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Lindsay155 Smile

726 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Crown Museum for letting me find it .. Ev

452 - NEW SHAPE broken, but glued together again Crying or Very sad

734 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jim and Jeremy and Kat and Val Smile


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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 1 Jun - 12:09

Congratulations to all.

Ev, for me one of the interesting results from this years new shape number finds is the identification of the new shape 728 beaker resulting from your research at Portage. You have not included it in the list above.

Duplicated numbers
Along with the other numbers for which more than one shape exists, 736, 738, 431, 432, it helps in informing us how numbering was used, and reused, on an ongoing basis. For these four the number for an obsolete shape was reused for a completely different shape. In identifying those four it was helpful, albeit confusing that both sets of numbers were recorded on the pieces themselves (or in modellers' books).

Unnumbered pieces as number duplicates
Where there are no numbers on pieces it is obviously more difficult and hopefully you will find some more answers at Portage. As well as the obvious Tobies, and Coronation and Empire Games mugs, we may find that the butter pat with the same edge as the (Carpay) 735 tray also fits into that 730s grouping.

The 782 story
The 728 story differs in that the 1961 beaker is a revised shape, an example of where one obsolete item is replaced with another which fulfils the same description and purpose. The duplication of the number 728 also serves to remind us that even the shapes that retained the same numbers (eg 805, 781) underwent constant redesign and we will find examples with varying measurements that are nevertheless still the same shape.

778 and 782 electric jugs
The 778 electric jug is an interesting one. Nice to see it finally hit the gallery. It was recorded in the modellers book with a 1961 date, yet a similar shape existed in Ambrico days, so one is led to wonder whether the earlier kettles are also the same number. The early 1960s (re)numberings suggest another example of a number where the number for an obsolete shape was reissued. This one is significant to me as I came to the site as a collector of 782 coffee cans. Anne's electric kettle 782 is clearly a Crown Lynn shape and a Crown Lynn numbering, but because the number 782 has a totally different shape associated with it there has been some doubt. I think we could safely now add it to the gallery with the understanding that while the 778 kettle was redesigned in the early 1960s the 782 kettle was finally dropped from the lineup as an obsolete item and the number given to the coffee can.
Anne's 782 kettle: http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3275p15-crown-lynn-russell-hobbs-coffee-perk-electric-jugs#11662

1950s shapes still mostly Ambrico
Val recorded comments from Tom Clark disparaging the production of the 1950s, yet those years gave us exciting new product lines: Wharetana, hand-potted, and hand decorated (Steenstra). Until now I have had difficulty with Clark's comment but I am beginning to understand: a huge number of Crown Lynn's shapes came into being before Crown Lynn itself, as Ambrico wares, and the designs prevailed with minor changes until the early 1960s when everything underwent a big revision, and brand new tableware shapes emerged, one outcome of which was the adoption of the new four digit numbering system.

Other ponderings:
Is the Ambrico shaving mug also a 714, another example of a shape update?
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Post  Ev on Tue 5 Jan - 20:35

Another 6 months have run away and we have found a staggering 8 New Shapes and 2 Museum Pics have been replaced as well as a few reused pesky numbers have been sorted.  Many thanks to the Portage Ceramic Museum for giving us new information and hopefully more will turn up from their records too.  It does take time and patience to get to the bottom of some of these shapes especially in the flatware areas.  Thanks for all of the help with these everyone!
Starting a new list.

719 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev Smile

772 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jeremy Very Happy

818 - NEW SHAPE Thanks to Ev ....

324 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev Smile

325 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev Smile

440 - NEW SHAPE  thanks Ev Wink

625 - Photo replaces sketch thanks to shrivle Smile

416 - Photo replaces Museum drawing thanks to Kat & Jeremy Very Happy

744 - NEW SHAPE thanks to the Portage Museum and Ev Smile

450 - Photo replaces Museum pic - Many thanks to Mumof1 Very Happy

446 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jim cheers cheers cheers 24.6.2017

864 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Ev Very Happy Very Happy

642 - Photo replaces Museum pic - many thanks to Peter Crowe Very Happy

191 - NEW SHAPE - Sea Lion - Photo thanks to HeatherT cheers

447 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Jeremy Very Happy

742 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Ev Smile

865 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Ev Smile

802 - Photo replaces Museum pic thanks to Janice Very Happy

412 - NEW SHAPE thanks to haselnuss Very Happy

445 - NEW SHAPE thanks to Simon Very Happy

It's 2 years since this list has been bumped and how fantastic to see that we have 15 NEW SHAPES and 5 Museum pics replaced in the 1 to 881 Gallery cheers  Well Done, Bravo to everyone concerned.  
There are still many shapes to find and lots to work out, so it will be an ongoing project.  Thank you.
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