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Post  mrnarna Thu 10 Mar - 16:27

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Post  Ev Thu 10 Mar - 17:08

Excellent thanks narna Very Happy
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Post  Ev Thu 10 Mar - 18:34

Will need to get the ok from a couple of Admins .....
as when I went to put your pic into the 700's CL Gallery
the sketch has a hole in the handle ...... confused
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Post  mrnarna Fri 11 Mar - 7:52

Hmm the one at the exhibition That was owned by Richard Quinn is the same as this one and I have seen the Auckland Museum drawing Potty in the "Clay" and it is a white glazed replica of this one with a wee saying along the lines of use me well and keep me clean and i wont tell what I seen.
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Post  TonyK Fri 11 Mar - 8:25

I think the hole in the handle in the sketch has been created by the sketching process. Richard's 797 drawing from the 1-881 list, possibly done from the piece mrnanrna has seen, doesn't show a hole. It also has a more rounded top to the handle than in real life. Those drawings were never going to win any technical drawing prizes.

My vote is for replacing the sketch with mrnarna's photo.
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Post  Ev Fri 11 Mar - 21:45

Heheeee I do enjoy a shape debate Very Happy
Tony do you have a copy of the original mini potty that the sketch was made from?
It is hard to see the real shape .... but you might see the handle clearer ....?
There seem to be a couple of miniature potties from Crown Lynn .... salemans samples it seems.
What is the height and width of this one narna?
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Post  Ev Sat 12 Mar - 19:28

I think the one with the saying "Use me well and keep me clean and I won't tell what I have seen."... and it has an eye on the inside bottom is the 797. It matches the drawing from the Museum more than the one you have narna. Plus it has a hole in the handle. We will have to find one to be able to compare them Wink
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Post  antcod Sun 10 Apr - 21:27

Hello ,
I have one of these - same colour same shape also more importantly it has

"Crown Lynn New Zealand" stamped on the bottom - pretty conclusive really.
The backstamp is from 1948-1955,....


I can up some photos if anyone wants me to.....


cheers Laughing

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Post  Ev Mon 11 Apr - 18:01

Hey there antcod Very Happy
Would love to see the photo of the one with the saying and replace the sketch in the Shapes Gallery with the real deal cheers
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Post  antcod Tue 12 Apr - 15:33

No worries I will borrow a decent camera and up a couple of photos...

cheers

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Post  antcod Tue 12 Apr - 16:52

Ok here are the photos.
I can email you directly if you like just reply here....

Cheers

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Post  antcod Tue 12 Apr - 17:01

This is the backstamp - Its the same as the one on page 156 in Valeries book

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Post  mrnarna Tue 12 Apr - 17:43

ooh that is lovely
Damn wish mine was Backstamped
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Post  Ev Tue 12 Apr - 17:44

Thanks antcod Smile
Are there any numbers on the base?
I'm fairly sure that the one with the saying has the number on the base ......
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Post  antcod Wed 13 Apr - 14:34

hi Ev,
no there are no numbers that I can see.
I was really happy to get this for $7.50 in a 2nd hand traders shop.
It was buried underneath some modern chinese rubbish - where there's muck there's brass as my late Nana would say...

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Post  Ev Sun 1 May - 17:14

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=373026712

This is the pot that I was talking about ....
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Post  mrnarna Sun 1 May - 17:18

ok so we agree then mine is not the 797

then what is it ??
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Post  Ev Sun 1 May - 18:28

I've asked if there are any numbers on the base ..... as we still need confirmation.
Your one may be a Saleman sample .....?? lordy I don't know narna as I don't do time travel atm Wink
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Post  Ev Mon 2 May - 18:35

Trader responded ...... No numbers on this one - so none of us are any the wiser clown
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Post  Ev Fri 9 Sep - 8:16

How delightful to find an auction showing both of the little potty shapes Very Happy

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Other/auction-405984144.htm
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Post  Ev Thu 19 Apr - 12:46

Wish me luck as I am bidding on one with a hole in the handle clown
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=467805644
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Post  Ev Sun 27 Jan - 9:00

How marvellous and thanks to Kat & Co for sending photos to the site of the possible 797 Chamber Ashtray that matches the Auckland Museum drawing !!!!!!
Though I've never seen that backstamp before, so we need to discuss this shape please.

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Post  Kat & Co. Wed 30 Jan - 16:35

The Transfer is just sitting on the surface of this Potty sometimes in humid weather it is tacky, so the eye would get ruined first time its used as ashtray..Kat
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Post  Ev Wed 30 Jan - 21:26

Kat & Co. wrote:The Transfer is just sitting on the surface of this Potty sometimes in humid weather it is tacky, so the eye would get ruined first time its used as ashtray..Kat

Hmmmm that makes me wonder if the decals haven't been fired onto the glaze, but just stuck on, which is not the kind of thing that Crown Lynn did ..... scratch
Interesting point though.
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Post  Ev Sun 17 Feb - 13:51

Just bumped into that MADE IN NEW ZEALAND backstamp in Val Monk's book .....
page 158, third row across - 3rd one down.
Heavily leaning towards this being the correct shape for the 797 now ....
just need two others to agree :whistles:
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