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Post  teaandcoffee on Wed 12 Jun - 12:47

I'm pretty sure this is a Crown Lynn jug from the fractionated era. The lid is exactly the same mould as the Ambrico ones earlier in this thread. The grey clay is also one they were using around this time and I would say the glaze is a typical CL blue drip/trickle one. You are right about the 5197.

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Post  mumof1 on Fri 14 Jun - 13:56

So, it seems that all those jugs on the middle shelf are Beelectric, http://electricjugs.ning.com/photo/beelectric-electric-jug?context=latest this one has the sticker on it. There is an unknown maker one shown,  http://electricjugs.ning.com/photo/unknown-maker-made-in-new?context=latest a BNB (what does that stand for?? Mine was advertised as BNB) http://electricjugs.ning.com/photo/bnb-new-zealand?context=latest
I wish they would show the bases, that might help us! sunny
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Post  teaandcoffee on Sun 16 Jun - 1:10

Get your new collection off to the best of starts...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=602641964

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Post  Ev on Sun 16 Jun - 10:59

Woooooo what an amazing collection !
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Post  Ev on Tue 2 Jul - 13:37

This is from the Modellers Notes November 1961.
Note the Electric Jug and Lid entry on 22nd -

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Don't think I've seen this shape yet ....
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Post  mumof1 on Tue 2 Jul - 13:43

Oh, how wonderful! We will keep our eyes peeled for a shape like that sunny 
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Post  Ev on Thu 11 Jul - 13:51

Just came across an old photo from hon-john and wondered if this was his Crown Lynn coffee perk?
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Post  haselnuss on Thu 11 Jul - 14:36

I have wondered that too. Our perc looks very much like Hon-John's.
 
It has the nice Crown Lynn colour glaze yellow. But the glaze is also very simular to our old yellow Temuka electric jug.
 
On the inside of the perc is a green slash. It has the same colour as the Titian/Aquila identification mark underneath vases etc.
 
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 11 Aug - 18:20

There is a yellow 778 kettle with one day left to run on eBay.

If anyone wants it it'll be about $120 all-up once the postage is paid.

See: CROWN LYNN BNB Pottery Electric Jug - Ceramic Kettle NZ

www.ebay.com/itm/271251216914
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Post  DaSiEm on Mon 12 Aug - 9:44

I have the 782 kettle, which I got off trademe from memory. Has a wee crack on the top but there's no element in there anymore. There's a socket behind the lid but I assume the plug/cord and element were removed...

Same yellow as well...
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Post  Ev on Mon 12 Aug - 9:57

We are holding back on the 782 Dasiem, waiting for more confirmation.
Does yours have Crown Lynn on the base?
Is it the same as the 782 on page 2 of this thread?
I can see it in your first photos on the 'Show Us Your Shelves' topic, but it's very hard to see. Did you post it on the site somewhere when you got it? If not can you post a photo of the pot and base in this thread so that we can compare them please.
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Post  DaSiEm on Mon 12 Aug - 10:43

Exactly like the one on page 2 Ev, even the crack on the lid. There's nothing I could add (other than I have one) to this thread...
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 29 Aug - 17:01

I have just received a Crown Lynn electric kettle (advertised as Temuka),
glazed in streaky lapis blue, body i/s and o/s, top o/s only, clear glaze on base.
It's shiny like brand new.

It appears to be a 778 but the only marking is:

240.V.
1500.W.

incised in the centre of the base.

Minor chip on inner rim and, 4mm firing crack at edge of fixing point on lid.
The inside appears to be intact.
I'm inclined to find a lead and fire it up!
(Fresh water does not conduct electricity.)

The only apparent difference I can see from photos of examples by mumof1
is that the little hole on the main body adjacent to the handle is to the right,
not the left.

Any ideas of age for this one?
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Post  bopmum on Thu 29 Aug - 19:01

I did see that Auction Jeremy, at first I thought that's not Temuka its Crown Lynn, but then the local Opshop have one with the same glaze and it has temuka on it ?
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 29 Aug - 19:10

No names on this one.

Did they use the same mold?
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Post  bopmum on Thu 29 Aug - 19:15

I'll try and get a photo of it tomorrow.
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Post  bopmum on Fri 30 Aug - 13:12

I couldn't get a good photo, but the shape is quite different. My photographic memory seem s a little distorted of late! Did you see the price tag, no lid either, clearly stamped Temuka

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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Fri 30 Aug - 14:05

I'm guessing that's not one dollar.

Here's mine. Have another look:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=626457383

The blue appears less intense at home than in the photos, certainly less so than the one in the shop.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Fri 20 Dec - 9:48

Finally some pictures of my kettle.
It was sold on trademe from Taranaki as "Temuka".
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I think it is the same colour as the one posted by teaandcoffee
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3275p15-crown-lynn-russell-hobbs-coffee-perk-electric-jugs#11678
Perhaps mine's inkier but that could be the lighting.
(I've sat the photos side by side to compare.)
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Only damage is a wee chip inside the lip. 4mm firing chip on the pivot hole.
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Seller said "not in working order" but it looks complete so I reckon I could fill it up, pop a lead on, and go. (I have a gas stove and kettle so it would just take up room.)
The incised or impressed mark is by the same hand as the lower illustration in Val's Crown Lynn Collector's Handbook, on page 112.

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This little hole is on the right of the handle on mine and teaandcoffee's,
left on some others. I don't know how significant that is.

Ev and bopmum have suggested that the glaze of teaandcoffee's one and mine, respectively, could be Temuka, but neither match the Temuka glaze comparison from bopmum. http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3275p30-crown-lynn-russell-hobbs-coffee-perk-electric-jugs#13194
The little hole by the handle matches teandcoffee's one too, but not two Crown Lynn examples from mumof1 on which it is on the left.
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3275-crown-lynn-russell-hobbs-coffee-perk-electric-jugs#11044
The base mark does not match teaandcoffee's one but instead matches one represented as Crown Lynn in the Collector's Handbook.
The element is what I take as the later type.

Whichever company made it is no problem to me, but I am curious.
And curious as to date of production ie 40s or 60s if Crown Lynn,
whenever if Temuka.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Fri 20 Dec - 14:16

I've just been reviewing the electric jug topics and

I don't think it was spelled here out in either that the "Ecolite":

http://electricjugs.ning.com/photo/dscf1545/next?context=user

is the same kettle shape as Tarvster's 785 in the other forum topic:

http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3470-crown-lynn-electric-jug#11280
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 5 Jan - 17:21

A Russell Hobbs CP1 Automatic Coffee Percolator.
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The English company Russell Hobbs produced the world's first automatic electric coffee percolator, designated CP1, in 1952. (wikipedia) I have seen these in a variety of colours including white (with transfers), powder blue, pale green and burgandy, but so far not yellow.
Russell Hobbs later produced the CP2, a complete redesign, with the assistance of Wegdwood. I have not yet identified the maker of the ceramic jugs for the CP1.

The two CP1s shown in this electric jug/kettle topic appear to be an identical specification to the English perc. If Crown Lynn made the jugs for Russell Hobbs percs in the 1960s there are two indications in the Hobbs topic that those shown are local product:
1. As stated in earlier posts, the yellow corresponds with the colouring of Crown Lynn electric kettles, and
2. As seen in the photo provided by haselnuss, the designation "Made in England" is noticeably absent from the baseplate where it appears on the original item. (see below)

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CP1 baseplate

If I was only a collector Crown Lynn and not a collector of coffee making devices (which I AM!) I'd be disappointed. This one is New Zealand sourced.
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Post  haselnuss on Sun 9 Mar - 16:30

To confuse us even more. I saw a powder blue Russle Hobs electric kettle without the Made In England. It cost $65 which is a bit much for me because I don't collect kettles. The shop also had the same powder blue kettle with the Made In England stamp which was $35.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 16 Mar - 12:50

mumof1 wrote:Crown Lynn / Russell Hobbs coffee perk? & Electric Jugs - Page 2 Dsc05718
This one is a different shape again, I didn't purchase it, but I got photos!
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This one is numbered 782, and has the same numbers PS 203 on the base, like the jug that Tarvster sent us http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t3470-crown-lynn-electric-jug#11280 so perhaps we should put these in the gallery also?  sunny

This is very interesting.
Crown Lynn number 782 in the gallery is the Cook & Serve coffee can.
The recent addition of definitions of other cans to the gallery confirms this.

Is this an alternative Crown Lynn numbering system or not Crown Lynn?
This could also have consequences for the provenance the other "P.S. 203." kettle referred to in the quote.

ALSO
Re Russell Hobbs above: maybe the "Made in England" refers just to the metal parts.
Maybe mine IS a New Zealand kettle. I'm not holding my breath here. I'm over it.
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Post  Ev on Fri 11 Apr - 17:49

An advert shows that Ambrico were exporting Electric Jugs to Oz 28 April 1948 ...

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/144149523?searchTerm=ambrico&searchLimits=
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Post  haselnuss on Sun 13 Apr - 18:17

I saw another baby blue Russell Hobbs electric jug for $40 in a Wanganui second hand shop that hasn't got the Made In England engraved on the metal.
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