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Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  mumof1 on Fri 10 May - 9:32


Another new pattern for our gallery, courtesy of trader allenm2

and a close up of the pattern


Thank you so much Al & Nora for allowing us to use your photos! We really appreciate it  cheers
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Re: Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  Ev on Fri 10 May - 12:08

I would have sworn that we already had this pattern but I can't find it anywhere .....
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Brown Bramble?

Post  Kat & Co. on Thu 3 Apr - 18:25

This dinner plate has Lucerne backstamp but that cant be right can it? cat 

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Re: Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  Ev on Thu 3 Apr - 19:07

It could well be right as I found another on Pinterest
http://www.pinterest.com/dawnweatherup/fine-china/
go to the third row, and we don't have this colour in that pattern.

I will wait for Janice to get her opinion before putting it into the Gallery.
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Re: Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  JanPots on Fri 4 Apr - 9:35

ummm.. Interesting! 
I have a Lucerne trio and the back stamp is the same as yours Kat & Co, 
( BTW the Museum notes has D418 Lucerne no photo to compare though! )
 
Facts:-from time to time the back stamp did not match the pattern - for example I have a blue narvick pattern and the back stamp is the colour glaze stamp and another plate with 2 back-stamps apollo + kelston 

Facts:- C/l did repeat patterns, so maybe they made a green version of blue bramble and called it Lucerne ? If I was to take bets I would go with that as the option  Razz 

However I have nothing to back that up! I have looked through everything I had and can't answer one way or the other... Janice

Very cool pattern though!
Also this pattern is Casbah when on fluted plate in another colour again
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Re: Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  Ev on Fri 4 Apr - 12:17

There is a pattern called Lucerne on here already and how odd that the back stamp is the same as this one !!!!!  I can't add links from my phone so just do a search to find it.
Janice edits....
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t2999-lucerne?highlight=lucerne
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/gallery/Crown-Lynn-Tableware-Patterns/I-J-K-L/lucerne-pic_3972.htm
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Post  JanPots on Fri 4 Apr - 12:57

So.... your database has 2 Deco numbers, so that may confirm 2 different patterns ?
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Post  unouwanit on Fri 4 Apr - 15:33

Just adding my 5cents worth.  I have a Lucerne int the top pattern also...two...so think this is a same name, different pattern.  Perhaps one through Kelston and one through Crown Lynn brands???


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Re: Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  Ev on Fri 4 Apr - 19:27

Uno is that pattern on the left called Lucerne?  
The one that Kat posted is a different colour and the one I posted a while ago is a totally different pattern.  
There is a pattern in your design on Apollo ware in green and it's called Casbah Green d103 and has a backstamp of Kelston Ceramics and has olive green Apollo cups.
We are still lost on this one aren't we ??
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Post  unouwanit on Fri 4 Apr - 21:41

Hi Ev, yes the one on the left is Lucerne Kelston Potteries.  Def a greeny/olive pattern similar to Kats dinner plate but could be my photography as I would have said it was the same as above?

That's one thing I love about Crown Lynn, so many variations.

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Post  JanPots on Sat 5 Apr - 8:50

So Ev, shall we add it to the "named gallery?"
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Post  Ev on Sat 5 Apr - 10:00

I'm loathed to put it in the gallery until more come to light, because I've never seen two different patterns sharing the same backstamp. Sorry Uno I thought Kat's was a fawny colour, but they both appear to be that unusual green.
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Post  Kat & Co. on Sat 5 Apr - 10:38

?? maybe this one is correct & the other in Gallery is wrong..how may plates like blue pattern in gallery are marked Lucerne? just a thought.  cat 
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Post  Ev on Sat 5 Apr - 12:16

I will have to check how many, but I know there are at least 4 in my collection. Something is wrong here .....
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Post  Ev on Thu 10 Apr - 8:29

Thanks to Tony for enlightening me to the Digital Library in OZ, I found an advert for LUCERNE from 17 March 1972.  So this doubting game is over as it looked just like this Lucerne pattern cheers This sort of thing makes my day cheers

Adding the link and hope it works ...
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/102203343?searchTerm="crown lynn"&searchLimits=
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Post  Ev on Sun 24 May - 12:02

The Lucerne pattern in question is Lucerne d418 and there is a photo to match it with, so I will add the number to the one in the Gallery cheers
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Re: Blue Bramble D.797 and Lucerne

Post  Ev on Mon 23 Nov - 16:48

Hahaa this time it's a Brown Bramble on the Forma shape .....
Do we have a name and number for this?



I will add it to the No Names Gallery for now under No-Name Brown Bramble
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Post  JanPots on Mon 23 Nov - 19:14

Nice fine  Cool
I have the same as you-
Casbah Green & Casbah brown on fluted/Apollo plates
Lucerne
and Blue Bramble
nothing for that pattern on forma shape ware
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Brown Bramble pattern on an oval

Post  JanPots on Mon 30 Nov - 8:48

I was having "yet another tidy up session" with the crown lynn plates.
I found this version of Brown Bramble, I say brown, its more of a dark fawn colour, rather than a true brown. I had forgotten that I had this Embarassed
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