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Post  mumof1 on Sat 9 Nov - 13:57


Gorgeous little sugar bowl and lid in honey speckled glaze,

like the 5620 but smaller

It is difficult to read the number, and I have tried all sorts - b&w, tinted, etc but it is still unclear, I think it is 5641
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Post  Ev on Sat 9 Nov - 15:38

Can't say that I've seen that shape before and it does look like 5641. The records only go to 5640 so I can't confirm it's description. Vitrified ware start with 56??. Its an unusual colour for vitrified ware.
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Maybe it's a 3541 then?

Post  mumof1 on Mon 11 Nov - 14:09



this is really annoying me that I can't make out the number. The wee sugar bowl is quite small : 60mm high and 110mm diameter (just under 2 1/2 inches high and 4 1/4 diameter) or 70mm (2 3/4") with the lid on. As you can see, I have tried several ways of getting a clearer shot of the number, but the whole thing is too small


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Post  Jonno on Sun 17 Nov - 13:41

My eyes say 5641 for what that is worth. For hard to read numbers I find that using a Loup and viewing under bright sunlight can allow more certainty.Slowly move the angle of the piece while keeping in focus.




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Post  mumof1 on Mon 9 Dec - 11:15

Thanks Jonno, as soon as I find a Lupe I will give it a try. sunny 
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another "5641" is supervitrified as well

Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 8 Jan - 11:19

mumof1,
check out this listing, particularly the second picture:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=682885101

As it is Ansett and Supervitrified I would suspect it's for serving hot food.
You wouldn't get a sugar bowl this big on a plane. (Maybe in a lounge.)

Maybe Ansett gave smaller servings than and Qantas (5620)!

As it is vitrified I'd expect it to be either 16xx-19xx or 5xxx;
I don't know whether 3xxx items were vitrified or not.
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Post  Ev on Wed 8 Jan - 11:29

I see there is a number on the base of that Ansett pot ......
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Post  Jonno on Wed 8 Jan - 14:30

I have asked the vendor to advise the number.

Yesterday I picked up a 1427 (lid is 1428) in a plain cream glaze and see that it is very similar to the 5641 in size and shape but is not ovenproof as the 5000 series are. No backstamp.
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Post  Jonno on Wed 8 Jan - 23:16

The Vendor confirms that her pot is a 5641 ,number was hard to read.
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Post  Ev on Sun 12 Jan - 19:37

Just came across this in the records when I was looking for something else!

1685 - Lid to 5641 Ansett Casserole and the First Date is 11-2-81.

So this is all sorted now to my way of thinking....... YAY cheers
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Post  Jonno on Sun 12 Jan - 22:46

or as my Geometry Teacher used to say Quad Erat Demonstrandum  (QED)
'That which was required to be shown' .  and as we crass schoolboys used to paraphrase
Quite Enough Done.

Seriously there is some pretty cool sleuthing done on this site.
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Post  Ev on Thu 19 Nov - 17:41

Found one today without a lid, but still got it as it interests me Very Happy
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Post  Jonno on Thu 19 Nov - 22:00

No photo of yours Ev but can you read the shape # as that seemed to be the problem
earlier in this thread.
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Post  Ev on Fri 20 Nov - 5:47

It took a lot of magnification to see the number and then I thought it started with a 1. But when I checked out the one in this thread the shape and measurements are the same and the backstamp is the Ansett one.
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Post  Ev on Sun 22 Nov - 11:58

Photos, though I couldn't pick up the number on the base.  It's a match though.



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RE: 5641 SUGAR BOWL AND LID - I THINK

Post  Jonno on Sun 22 Nov - 20:26

Have just realised that my post a little back up this thread where I mention picking up a S/basin with lid  (Jan8 ?) failed to say that this is a different shape altogether and  have just seen that it is in the gallery as 'Pagoda Shape' 1427 pot ,1428 lid. My sample is in cream no B/S and is a distinctly different shape to the 5641. No photo as my camera battery is flat but here is the one from the gallery. Notice the flare at the top of the pot and hard to see in the photo but there is also a distinct indent at the bottom of the pot.about 8mm from the base. Sorry for any confusion.

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