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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 30 Apr - 13:54

Stacking hotel coffee cups x 3Looking for the Stacking Hotel Vitrified ware Shape Numbers  - Page 2 Stack12
Contrary to the photos these are all the same size.
1. Different handle
2. The one seen above
3. The rounded base one

I know we have seen the rounded one before but the matter of handles has not been addressed.
I wonder if number one is the "D" handle referred to in some descriptions.

These are at Coal Town Traders, Hikurangi, thanks Linda.
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Post  Ev on Wed 30 Apr - 15:11

Is that odd handle the same as the ones on those vitrified jugs of yours above Jeremy?
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 30 Apr - 16:18

Ev, on the cup the upright of the D adjacent to the body is more solid than on the jugs. The shape of the handle is pretty much the same. At this stage I have only the photos to work off.

When I first looked at the jugs in relation to the Hotel stacking stuff I presumed the difference in handles was something to do with the way they were made, that the jug handles were made with the body of the jug, but the cup handles were stick-ons.

When I looked at these cups today it was obvious the ones with the little tail were stick-ons, but less so the simple Ds, but I assumed they were. There are no 1600 cup descriptions and no cups in the 6600s either so they must be stick-on-handle 3600s.

When I was looking at them I was thinking that the middle cups were the odd ones and it wasn't til I got home an connected to the forum I realised it was the other way around.

I won't be back at Hikurangi this week unless I make a spur-of-the-moment decision to drive further North on Friday. I didn't buy them because $4 each was more than I wanted to pay for something I had no use for. So ... if you have further questions I will check them out when I can.

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In the following link I document the eggcup/mustard-pot/toothpick-holder as the first, the eggcup, although later they were sold in condiment sets as a mustard pot without lid. If these were designed originally for hotel use they would have had a lid, but for domestic use that is not an issue.

http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t1553p15-unknown-glaze-this-is-actually-greenstone#20724





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Post  Ev on Sun 1 Jun - 9:49

Kat & Co. wrote:I think the salt n pepper is correct..Are these the egg cup shape?  cat 
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I showed my one to Bruce Yallop who was a modeller at Crown Lynn and he said that yes these were hotel stacking eggcups. So the number will be 3625 cheers
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Post  Ev on Wed 4 Jun - 8:41

Just a note to say that a size 7 egg fits perfectly into the above eggcup *YAY*
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Post  Ev on Mon 22 Sep - 15:01

I noted in Mark Cleverley's book that the teapot didn't go ahead and that the saucer was used for both the teacup and the coffee cup and that's why they had double rings.

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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 22 Sep - 15:42

The double-foot-ring locking system for stacking cup and saucer is the same as for Forma.
Forma saucers and hotel stacking saucers have the same profile.

Stacking tea and coffee cups have the same base.
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Post  Ev on Mon 22 Sep - 16:19

Do we have the saucer number Jeremy?
Forma is earthenware so the vitrified saucer will be a different number.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 22 Sep - 17:12

I don't mean that they are from the same original like some earlier shapes. For a start the size difference is too big. There are minor differences but they are basically the same design.

I have the stacking hotel saucer as 4624:
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5249-vitrified-cups-and-saucers-a-guide#19616
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Post  Ev on Mon 22 Sep - 17:51

Yes the 4624 Stacking saucer is in the gallery.
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