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Post  Maryr on Mon 24 Mar - 16:44

This cost me a whole $10.... eek!  it is medium sized, 17 cm to top of lid, 18.5 across.  It is that same green as the Expo ware, with the same weird larger font numbers on the base. Very hard to read but ahem trust me, it's 1649 (I am almost certain)
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Post  Ev on Mon 24 Mar - 16:56

Oh wow how amazing to actually find one of these bounce
These are made from vitrified porcelain clay so can be safely used in the oven.
There is one on these in the photo from Expo 70 that Jeremy got permission to put on the site. Hopefully he can add a link for us.
Please use it one day and tell us how you found it to cook in.
Thank you !!!!
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 24 Mar - 18:31

The one at the back is the 1649. The one in front of it is 1645.
The 1649 shares the lid of the 1647 but is twice the height.
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Photo supplied by Michael Smythe. For full attribution and more photos more see: http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t4726-photographs-from-expo-70-osaka#17011

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Post  Maryr on Mon 24 Mar - 21:01

Ev I love it when I find something that makes you go yellow and bounce up and down! The lid is a bit wonky so maybe it was a second.
And ta for those expo px Jeremy. Good to see on the site.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Tue 25 Mar - 0:02

Val, Ev,
Are you sure this isn't a 1659 45oz casserole?


I don't think it's big enough for a 1649, which is 65oz.


Val, do you have a liquid measure with ounces on it to test it out?


If it is 1659 then lid is 1660.


Also, gallery notes do not give a lid for 1649.


I note that I wrote in the other topic that I thought the larger one was a 1648 as it appeared to be the same diameter as my 1647. Lid 1650. I'm not sure what it is now.


This series of cookware is often reported on the forum (generally 1645s) as having wonky lids.
The fit on both my 1645 and 1647 is not great. (Wobbly)


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For gallery CL stewpot 1649 Empty ... or is it a 1648 with the wrong number on?

Post  Jeremy Ashford on Tue 25 Mar - 0:29

From my reading of Val's photo the number appears to be 1669, which is an Ionic casserole like Tricia's one (see 1673), which would mean it has the wrong number.

I checked Val's diameter measurement against my 1647, and both are written up as 185mm (18.5cm) which means the same lid will fit both, which means Val's could also have lid 1650, which means it would be a 1648, which is what I initially picked the Expo one to be!

Val, we need to get our pots together.
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Post  Maryr on Tue 25 Mar - 8:27

I have checked the numbers and the 4 is very clear - its definitely 1649.  Yes we need to get these pots together Jeremy... next week would be better than this week.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 26 Mar - 14:21

Val has loaned me her pot to play with.

First thing, as Val says, despite ambiguities in the photo, the number is clearly 1649.

From there things get screwy.

The 1649 is described as a stewpot "65 oz".
There is no number given for a lid.

On measuring the pot I find that it comfortably holds 45 ounces, 50 at a squeeze;
I tried 64 (the top measure on my Pyrex jug, and it formed a meniscus and just avoided flowing over.

I tried my own 1647 24oz, as I thought the volume measure may refer to the volume contained under the lid as well, but found that it comfortably holds 24oz, as it should.

The lid of Val's pot is 5mm smaller than the one on mine. Over the full diameter I don't know how significant that is, whether it's a fair tolerance or a different size and number.
Both pots are a bit wonky but even taking that into account Val's is slightly smaller OD.

The footring of Val's is measurably smaller too, about 4mm.
I was expecting them to be the same.

The height to the lip of Val's is LESS than twice mine.
I would expect a pot containing about 2 1/2 times the volume to be MORE than twice the height.

All things considered Val's pot comes closer to the gallery description for 1648 than 1649. Could the descriptions be wrong?
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Post  Ev on Wed 26 Mar - 16:41

The description was wrong as I had neglected to put the lid number for the 1649.
It's 1650 the same as the 1647 and the 1648.
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