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Post  haselnuss Mon 1 Dec - 16:16

The bisque kiwi spill vase (14cm high & 14cm long, 8cm wide) that I posted above is much taller than the fraction marked trickle glaze kiwi spill vase (10.5cm high & 12cm long, 7cm wide) which is either the 156 or 165. Does anyone know which has what number?
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Post  Ev Mon 1 Dec - 16:59

There was a big discussion about the 156 and 165 at one time, but I can't remember the details. I will try to find it when I get a chance.
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Post  mumof1 Mon 1 Dec - 20:36

All my glazed kiwi vases are numbered 165, and all the Salisbury vases (usually not numbered) with the painted finish and a larger size, I had noted to be the 156. Hope that makes sense.
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Post  Maryr Tue 2 Dec - 15:45

These photos have been generously sent to me - they show SOME of the collection of the people who showed me the catalogues. Wonderful to see!
Over the next few days I will put together and post a potted history of the Salisbury/Royal Oak business based on the information I have recently been given. For now, I've run out of time again sorry.

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Note below I was advised that the kingfisher does not belong in the bowl - ie it is not fixed there.
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In the pic below, I love the variations on the planters made and decorated by Daniel Steenstra. I have never seen one with the square-style decoration.
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This is a mix of Salisbury and everyday Royal Oak.
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Post  Ev Tue 2 Dec - 19:04

Oh Wow these are just so Grand to see!!!
So many of the early Crown Lynn shapes are there and I just found a shape 17 painted just like the one in the photo Very Happy
The sailing ship looks very Titian-ish and I don't think I've seen one.  Also the baskets ..... where are they?  I've never come across one anywhere ..... yet.
How marvellous to see the Mother coffee mugs with the little flower decoration.  I found one for myself as I really like the unusual shape and pattern.
The kingfisher has it's own number, as does that bowl it is sitting in.
How interesting to see so much of Daniel Steenstra's work !
When I get a chance I will ponder over those shapes to see if there are any there that we are missing .....
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Post  haselnuss Fri 16 Jan - 19:54

The bigger of the square painted Steenstra pots could be the 8inch one if the other are the 6inch pots.

The Salisbury galleon looks similar to the Beswick galleon on Trade Me.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=834825761
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Post  Ev Mon 30 Mar - 12:44

I recognised this piece as being Salisbury Ware, but don't know who would have made it for them as the clay is very yellow .... any ideas?  
There are odd letters in pencil on the base ...?
Edits to add that oakpot has identified this as a Sherwood blank.

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Post  Ev Wed 11 Nov - 10:25

The two bowls in the front of the photo with the plant pots may be shape 7015 -
8" Rimmed Bowl Coloured I feel. I have a feeling that we have some shapes with that stamp on, but not sure if we have the bowl shape.
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Post  Kat & Co. Tue 24 Nov - 13:17

This looks like Salisbury & its in first catalogue pic bottom row, second from right its a bit different to the CL shape 434 horseshoe trough pic. cat
It is painted creamy yellow.

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Post  Ev Fri 8 Apr - 18:07

There are so many pieces to put into the Salisbury Gallery!
Even though some have the Royal Oak sticker, I will keep the kitchenware in the Royal Oak Gallery and the vases and artware in the Salisbury/Royal Oak Artware Gallery.
Their output was so immense and we still have to work out which pieces were made by Titian, Spartan and Rancich, as it appears to be easy to work out what Ambrico/Crown Lynn made.
I will happily work on this when I get a chance, hopefully on Sunday.
It feels like we are on the brink of another huge breakthrough .........


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Post  Kat & Co. Sat 28 May - 9:41

Maryr has posted a pic with white/black one of these above  Cool this ones
Antique Gold coloured mesh with a trough vase that looks like its not Crown Lynn with wedge feet..initially wasnt sure if the green was correct but now think its original..see pics..the black/white catalogue above has a number 1410..is that the shape number for the trough alone or product number for the complete mesh &  vase.?. cat
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Mystery hanger Ive hung onto as Im sure is Royal Oak just not sure what it off..does it wall hang? theres no obvious wear or broken point in the paint.
It shows the bright colours they used..and different shades of green.
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Post  Ev Sat 28 May - 12:15

I've seen this shape before, did haselnuss post a photo perhaps?
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Post  Kat & Co. Sat 28 May - 12:56

Yep big green ones earlier in thread on different wire stands cat
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Post  oakpot Sat 28 May - 14:43

Both items were manufactured by Royal Oak see photos.
The trough vase is a Crown Lynn  No 21, product. No 1404.
The scrollware was sold with a hanging Crown Lynn bowl.
Product No8.

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Post  Kat & Co. Sat 28 May - 15:49

Thanks for your help Oakpot, hhhmmm..
theres actually another shape as 21 in the CL 3 digit gallery.. Suspect
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Post  Ev Sat 28 May - 17:45

Yes, I know the Ambrico/Crown Lynn shape 21 very well and it's the one in the gallery that you linked to Kat. We will have to delve deeper into this. I'm sure haselnuss has one as well and hopefully there is a clue on her one.
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Post  Ev Wed 29 Jun - 14:42

On the Auckland Museum Collections Online, I found a Scallop Shell for Royal Oak and the maker was Sherwood Potteries and it has to be this one cheers

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Post  ann marie Wed 29 Jun - 18:44

Hi all, I'm so sorry to ask a newbie question - but with regard to the kingfisher in particular - does this mean it is not a CL shape, but is a Salisbury shape? Thanks so much for the clarification! 😊


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Post  Ev Wed 29 Jun - 19:18

Hi there ann marie Smile
That is a good question as Crown Lynn made the Kingfisher and Salisbury decorated it and then sold it using the Salisbury name.
Salisbury did this with many, many pieces that they sourced from various potteries.
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Post  ann marie Wed 29 Jun - 19:35

Thanks Ev, and the parrot shape also? (I see the discussion re the 165 and 156 kiwi) I also have both (glazed) plain white and coloured kingfisher and Parrot. The coloured Parrot has holes for flowers, the plain white does not. Oh so confusing for a newbie!
Thank you for the clarification, I understand now that Salisbury took CL (and other potteries) shapes and added value by painting/glazing or adding to them and then sold them. So much to learn!
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Post  Ev Thu 10 May - 9:06

Maryr wrote:Recently someone from Royal Oak/Salisbury gave me some old photos of their ware.  These are scans of photocopies so not as clear as I would like, but I hope they are still useful.
This is a display of the early ware. I have left the photos quite big so hopefully they can be enlarged.
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This Log Vase is the same shape as the one in the first photo bottom row, second on the left. Photos courtesy of Toni Skellon. I will add it to the Salisbury Gallery and would very much like oakpot to check it out and if possible tell us who made it.

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Post  mike67 Sun 17 Jun - 17:08

RO basket from Val's catalogue images.
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Post  Ev Sun 17 Jun - 18:15

OMGoodness yes indeed !!!
I wonder who all made these baskets?
I have one, but it doesn't have the sticker.
I will add yours to the Royal Oak Artware Gallery.
The sticker at least gives it a time frame Smile
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Post  JanPots Tue 11 Sep - 17:02

I felt sure that this is sailsbury ware, but was suprized how small it is.
Anyways.. ... I bought it as it's very retro also.... I have a wall display shelf that has the green leaves on it too.
In fact... I bought it from Hon John a few years ago at Tamahere market.

Anyways. Back to the green vase ... it looks to be in the gallery and hopefully it's sailsbury. ..
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Post  Ev Tue 11 Sep - 18:49

It's so retro and lovely Janice I love you
It's a Shape 580 and yes Salisbury decorated the blanks Smile
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