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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 14 Jan - 14:37

original title:
what was the first cup to use a 739 saucer?

We already have "Hancock's" and we already have the 739 saucer.
What surprises me here is that this 739 has a 48-55 backstamp.
I didn't realise that they were made that early.
Nicholson Park, early duo with 739 saucer 7394810

I do not recall seeing a vitrified 755 Carlton cup with this backstamp, ie so early, and I believe the 863 tulips were made from the 781 mould (in the early 1960s) so I'm curious to know what cup would have been used. Jim's small one with a pointy handle has the same backstamp, but the measurements show a 48mm footring which is just too big. Here it is:
Nicholson Park, early duo with 739 saucer Smalcc10
53mm H x 82OD top x 48 footring
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t6635-jim-s-small-vitrified-coffee-cup-1948-55#26264

So, does anyone have either a 755 Carlton cup with a 48-55 stamp, or any other vit cups that may fit? (I don't want a cup, I just want to know.)
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27/2/17
I just won one of these cups on tm complete with monogram-matched saucer:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1270355910

It looks as though it will turn out to be a 739 but I will just have to wait until the end of the week (hopefully it arrives by then) to find out.

I'd like to swap for Jim's plain cup but this topic tells me I probably don't have a 48-55 739 saucer without a monogram. Bah!


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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 2 Mar - 18:48

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unknown cup shape with 739 saucer, 48-55 backstamp

In the absence of documentary evidence, the most reliable way to match cup and saucer shapes is to obtain a matched pair, that is a pair with matched backstamps, and matched pattern or monogram.

In the original post I speculated that a likely contender for earliest cup to match the 739 saucer could be the unnumbered cup with vitrified "Carlton" cup body and unique handle first seen in a photo from Jim Brock's collection.

This find of a pair with the same green 1948-55 Crown Lynn Vitrified backstamp and matched monograms appears to confirm that speculation. At time of writing I cannot remember if I have yet located a 755 vitrified Carlton cup with the same or earlier backstamp.
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