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Post  Finn McCahon-Jones on Thu 12 Jan - 11:19

Recently Ron Lambert gifted a stack of B&W 35mm Titian Paramountware negatives to Te Toi Uku / Portage Ceramics Trust. Cameron Brown gave these negatives to Gail Lambert while she was writing her book. In Cam's letter he said that the negatives here contain about 50% of the Paramount range produced in the 1960s.

The plan is that the negatives will be scanned some time in the future - but until then here is a list of the negatives, for anyone who wants to come in and do further research on Paramountware and Titian.

There are three columns - Type - model number - name

Type Model Number Name
1x B&W negative P.F.104 Marlin Ash Tray
1x B&W negative P.A.100 Ash Tray
1x B&W negative A.10 Deer Ash Tray
1x B&W negative P.L.11 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.L.6 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.L.7 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.L9 [Lamp Bases]
1x B&W negative none Coffee Mugs
1x B&W negative S.B.202 Bowl
1x B&W negative S.B.203 Bowl
1x B&W negative P.V.112 Vase
1x B&W negative P.B.100 Large Bowl
1x B&W negative none Wahine Jug
1x B&W negative B.103 Butterfly Trough
1x B&W negative P.B.104 Bowl
1x B&W negative P.101-1 Medium Urn
negative missing P/L/1 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.101 Large Urn
1x B&W negative P.L.8 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative, 1 B&W print P.7 Vase
1x B&W negative B.101 Bowl
1x B&W negative, 1 B&W print J.N.B.300 Jug
1x B&W negative T103 Vase
1x B&W negative, 1 B&W print T.N.B306 [trough vase]
1x B&W negative, 1 B&W print V.115 Vase
1x B&W negative, 1 B&W print B.112 Bowl
1x B&W negative, 1 B&W print P.3, P.4, P.2, P.1 Miniatures [vases]
1x B&W negative P.6 Vase
1x B&W negative B.116 Biscuit Bowl
1x B&W negative P.B.26 Shell Bowl
4x B&W negative V.N.B.304 / V.N.B.305 Spare Negatives
1x B&W negative S.B.201 Bowl
1x B&W negative B.N.B.306 Bowl
1x B&W negative V.N.B.304 Vase
1x B&W negative B.B.200 Min.Bowl
7x B&W negative none Lamp Bases Spare Negatives
1x B&W negative none T.V.Sets
1x B&W negative P.V.113 Vase
1x B&W negative P.A.101 Large Ash Tray
3x B&W negative V.N.B.300 none
1x B&W negative T.N.B.303 Bowl
1x B&W negative P.V.110 Vase
1x B&W negative B.N.B.300 Bowl
1x B&W negative V.114 Vase
1x B&W negative P.J.101 Jug
1x B&W negative T.104 Trough
1x B&W negative none Figurines
3x B&W negative none Paramount Ovenware
1x B&W negative P.F.106 Trout Ashtray
1x B&W negative P.J.100 [Jug]
1x B&W negative P.F.105 Seagull Ash Tray
1x B&W negative P.L.10 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.L.3 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative T.N.B.300 Trough
5x B&W negative none Lamp Base Negatives not in range
1x B&W negative none Steak plate
1x B&W negative T.102 Sets of three Swallows
1x B&W negative N.X.502-20 Trough
3x B&W negative none Paramount Ovenware 1 off each negative
1x B&W negative none Salts & Peppers
1x B&W negative none Beer Mug & Matching Ash Tray
1x B&W negative none Large 3 Pint Jug
1x B&W negative none Set of Three Jugs
0 V.N.B.305 none
1x B&W negative P.L.12 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.L.13 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.V.108 Vase
1x B&W negative W.V.104 Wall Vase
1x B&W negative none Tray
1x B&W negative S.V.201 none
1x B&W negative V.111 Vase
1x B&W negative none Specimen Vase
1x B&W negative P.5 Vase
1x B&W negative B.N.B.305 none
1x B&W negative none China Clock Cases
1x B&W negative (two joined) V.N.B.300 Spare Negatives
1x B&W negative P.L.5 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative none none
1x B&W negative P.L.4 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative P.L.2 Lamp Bases
1x B&W negative B.N.B.302 [Bowl]
2x B&W negative M.V.103 Pansy Wall Vase
1x B&W negative P.V.111 Vase
1x B&W negative P.V.109 Vase
1x B&W negative U.N.B.300-2 Large Urn




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Post  Ev on Thu 12 Jan - 12:53

Wow !!!!! 
Thank you so much as that was a big effort transposing that lot !!

Next time I visit the Museum I will have to check these out if possible.

There are 40 shape numbers that we don't have in the Titian Gallery and we may have the shape but not the number and I will have to check the negatives to make sure.

We already have 35 of those shapes in the Titian Gallery, but we have a lot more to find.
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Post  Ev on Thu 26 Jan - 8:02

I spent the day at the Portage Museum yesterday and went through all of the negatives for the Titian Paramount Ware.  It was rather difficult as I had to photograph them using a lamp light behind and the negatives are really small.  However I managed to get a record of the shapes they made and also discovered some other interesting info, for example the B.103 is called a Butterfly Trough, not a Moth Vase Smile

Out the 12 Lampbases we only have one that haselnuss posted and I will hopefully find a number for it.  Though I did find at the end that I had more photos than numbers, due to being distracted by wonderfully interesting people.

It will take time to share all of the info, but I will do what I can when I can.  I don't have permission to post pics of the negs and as the photos are terrible I won't be asking for permission.

The ware in the negatives looks very much like that in the photo of Gail Henry's book taken between 1966 and 1969 on page 158 in her 2nd Edition.
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Post  teaandcoffee on Sun 29 Jan - 17:18

For my own delight, I posed some of these Titian lamps in a mock up of an interior the like of which they were designed for.

The Titian panther T.V lamp is an interesting and actually unique object in New Zealand commercial ceramics. It is, to my knowledge, the only T.V lamp produced here.

The reason for this is that television arrived in New Zealand rather late (1960). T.V lamps are really a North American and European artifact of the decade of the 1950s. This was due to the rather primitive tube display technology of that decade, which required the assistance of backlighting as a foil for the light-emitting screen to facilitate ease of viewing.

By 1960, technology had moved on and the first generation of televisions available in this country did not appear to demand the services of a prowling cat or cavorting nymph concealing a discrete lamp to project the grey-scale spartan interior of the NZBC newsroom into stylish mid-century living rooms.

The television depicted here is an early 1960s model made in the Philips factory in Wellington. It has a blond wood molded ply carapace and Jetson's-style pin legs - exactly the type of television on which this Titian lamp would have been placed sometime between 1960 and 1963.

The two lamps on either side are the two tallest shown lined up along the front of the Titian photo on page 158 of Gail Henry's second edition.

The one on the left may be considered the most mythic creature by many Titian collectors - the large "Hubble-Bubble Lamp". This is the only one I have ever seen, and what a masterpiece of elegant design it is - a quadruple gourd form that measures 485 mm to the bottom of the light fitting. It must have demanded the patience of Job to produce with its long gracile neck.

The glaze is a hand-painted Teddy Rennie wood grain special, which is neither the usual mahogany nor the oak grain. I have not seen another quadruple gourd form mid-century lamp from anywhere else in the world.

The lamp on the right is the second tallest in the line-up and also a gem of elegant design in what we believe to be the rare Titian "Ox-blood" glaze.

The point I would like to make here is that these Titian lamps employed the most tricky production techniques and the very best glazes available to Cameron Brown and his team. They would likely have been expensive articles in New Zealand department stores in the 1960s and compare favorably with the best contemporary lighting/lamp design available in Europe and America.

Unfortunately these lamps are rare. Rare is an overused word, but is probably correct here.

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Post  teaandcoffee on Sun 29 Jan - 17:20

Ev - How do I right my hubble-bubble pictures?
With love, T&C.

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Post  Ev on Sun 29 Jan - 18:26

Oh My that is a fantastic Titian post T&C and it takes my breath away. 
It made my heart go pitter patter as it did when I saw the negatives. 
I think that the large wonderful bubble lamp base is the P.L.12 Shape, but will have to confirm. 
The Cougar Lamp Base is P.L.7 and the Ox Blood lamp base is there, but I need to check the number.
I tried to fix the hubble bubble photos, but it wouldn't let me.  My only thoughts are that they are a bit too big for the site.  Perhaps if you reduce the size and post them again they will work.  Rare as rare as hen's teeth and unicorn horns they are !!!!!
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Post  Ev on Mon 30 Jan - 17:41

I've reduced your Bubble Lamp photos T&C and will post them up the right way for you.

That glazing is spectacular!!!!!!! 

I will add your photo to the Titian Gallery too thank you.

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Post  Maryr on Mon 30 Jan - 19:07

That maroon lamp makes my heart sing!!! (And this after only one beer.)
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Post  Ev on Wed 8 Feb - 11:33

The beautiful Ox Blood Lamp Base is P.L.11.
Well that is the Paramount number.
I'm back at the Museum trying to sort out these shapes.
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Post  dollcrown on Wed 8 Feb - 16:35

Have you a negative of the lamp base with the hole through it please Ev?

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Post  Ev on Wed 8 Feb - 16:43

Hi dollcrown, I'm trying to find out how to turn these negatives into positives so that I can see them properly. I will let you know if I see the one with a hole through it.

The Bubble Lamp is shape P.L.13 teaandcoffee.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 8 Feb - 17:25

Ev, I use an app called PixlrExpress+ (among others) for manipulating images on the iPad.
One of the effects is to change from negative to positive and vice versa.
Here's an example of the effect using a picture I have just posted today.
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This works with both black and white and colour.
There must be plenty of free apps that do the same.

I also used the same app for toning the image on my avatar ...
... but a completely different one for adding the splashes of colour for the eyes and mouth.
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Post  Ev on Wed 8 Feb - 17:46

Thanks so much Jeremy, I will give it a go.
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Post  teaandcoffee on Wed 8 Feb - 23:02

Thanks for that information Ev. It is interesting that both the tall lamps are at the tail end of the range (P11 and P13). I imagine this means they are likely to be mid to late 1960s ones, whereas the genesis of the others will range from late 50s to early-mid 1960s. The panther/cougar lamp is a case-in-point. I believe it should date pretty much to the year of the introduction of TV in New Zealand (1960). Much later and it would have been obsolete on arrival.

It would settle a wee question in my mind to know if the photo in the book was taken in 1966 or further towards 1969. In my opinion, form-wise, these later numbered lamps are the most attractively designed ones. What shape was P12 incidentally? Was it the small hubble-bubble lamp by any chance?

Val - the glaze looks a bit more maroon in the photos than it is in reality. This must be due to the camera flash I think. The glaze is quite different from the usual Titian maroon glaze. This one has a bit more vermilion/scarlet in it. There is a record of an 'ox-blood' glaze developed by Cam Brown so it made sense to us to conclude that this is it. We haven't seen another example though.

I would be interested in seeing any lamps dollcrown might be able to show...

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Post  Ev on Thu 9 Feb - 7:47

Jeremy could you please convert a couple of negatives for me, I haven't had any luck yet.

P.B.26 Shell Bowl looks interesting...

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P.L.12 Lamp Base for teaandcoffee. 
There is no small bubble lamp base between P.L.2 and P.L.13.

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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 9 Feb - 9:22

Ev, the negative conversions of your images looked wrong so I tried them in black and white too. I'm not sure what is going on.
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Post  Ev on Thu 9 Feb - 9:26

Thanks Jeremy, there were 3 or 4 positive photos and they were in black and white ... I will add one so you can see what it looks like ...

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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 9 Feb - 9:35

That one just appears to be a b&w photo.

Was the flaring in the previous two photos contained on the film or did you pick them up in re-photographing?
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Post  Ev on Thu 9 Feb - 9:39

As I said above, I had to hold the tiny negatives up to a lamp light as I didn't have a light-box to photograph them.  It is mainly to see the shapes and I've managed to do this, though details are dismal.

T&C I found in Gail Henry page 168 that the Clock surrounds were made circa 1960 and there is a negative with 3 China Clock Cases in this lot.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 9 Feb - 9:54

Ev, I've reduced the brightness to give you a bit more detail.
You can see the numbers on the rule in these so the brightness is about right.
I didn't address other issues.
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Post  Ev on Thu 9 Feb - 10:40

Wow thanks Jeremy as details pop out on both of them now.  cheers
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Post  dollcrown on Thu 9 Feb - 14:09

Sorry teaandcoffee, have let some nice lamp bases slip through my fingers, but still have my two favourites, the doughnut style one has the gold stardust on it which gives it a lovely sheen.Titian Paramount Negatives Dsci6716

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Post  teaandcoffee on Thu 9 Feb - 15:35

Dollcrown - very nice lamp and nice to see in that dark pink acid lustre star-dust glaze which is also a rare one. The usual star-dust is the gold on black found on vases, but I have seen several lamps now with unusual star-dust colour combinations.

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