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Post  Ev on Fri 30 Jan - 11:11

John was told that this was Crown Lynn -
and were made for BIC to give away as gifts.
Just over 7cms tall and 6cms across the top.
Can anyone help with id please?
John's Bic vase.... was made by Orzels. Bic_va10
John's Bic vase.... was made by Orzels. Bic_ba10


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Post  HeatherT on Fri 30 Jan - 17:33

There is a similar shape one with "pens"on the front that I have seen,..maybe this was same shape but a special run done for Bic??
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Post  haselnuss on Thu 4 Dec - 17:28

Well I found the BIC pot as a Crown Lynn ball point pen jar in museum files.
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/491511/Ball_point_pen_jar
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 4 Dec - 17:39

I was surprised to see that in the Portage files too. It may be that, like the Air NZ building bottles, Ti-Toki bottles etc, more than one manufacturer was involved.

I wrote somewhere that, although it has been confirmed that Orzel did make these, the glazes are not familiar to me from other Orzel pieces.
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Post  Maryr on Thu 4 Dec - 18:49

Remember that not even the museum gets everything right all the time. From memory they had a Manhattan piece as CL when it's Orzel. That said, I can't say for sure that CL never made these pots but I was there when Cam Brown confirmed that Orzel had made them.
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Post  haselnuss on Thu 4 Dec - 19:08

I am sure Cam Brown is right.
There is another one in the museum files attributed to C/L.
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/491512/Ball_point_pen_jar
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Post  Ev on Thu 4 Dec - 19:46

I picked up on this error right away and we thought that these were made by Crown Lynn until Cam Brown said that they made them by the thousands. Like Val said, they cannot get everything right all of the time, but the majority is correct. I have come across another problem and I will check it out with their records when the Museum is open to the public next year. There are still a lot of records that haven't been added and I am hoping that they will be accessible at the Museum. I have started a list of queries.
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