I still can't tell if they are Crown Lynn or not !

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=460826022
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=460932350
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=460850305
I can't tell if these are Crown Lynn or not.....

I can tell that this is driving you nuts
Can't look at those auctions until I get home, as we don't have access to TM at work.

1st one is Crown Lynn ..... Manos sent in a pic of a similar piece with flower transfers and he attributed it to Steenstra. The pic is in the Artist/Craftsmen Gallery.

2nd one is Crown Lynn and I've placed a bid with cracks chips and all

3rd one ..... who knows? I've never seen that shape before. Q&A say that Briar Gardner was a designer for Crown Lynn ..... have never heard that before. I do know that they did many experimental pieces during the early 1940's, but can't say if this is one or not.......?

I do know that Richard Quinn dug up a piece of Brian Gardner pottery at Crown Lynn and spoke to Tom Clark about it. Tom Clark with, reportedly some reluctance, said that Briar had worked at CL and I think there's an obvious influence of her glazes on the running glazes of that early era.

The exhibition at the Corban Estate had several examples of her work that looked a lot like large Crown Lynn pieces and Tom Clark's remarks in the catalogue hint at her influence on the company's production at the time.

The "45" is unlike other dates I've seen inscribed in Crown Lynn pieces though which tend to include the number of the month.

Just a feeling with no real evidence but the 45 piece doesn't look right to me for a Crown Lynn piece.

Having just finished re-reading Fire on the Clay, by Dick Scott, it's not surprising to hear that Richard dug up some Briar Gardner work, as she had her early pieces fired in her brother Jack's kiln along with the bricks.
Makes me wonder if they would have been salt fired or if she used saggars to protect them?
I've been trying to find a pic of some of the early experimental Crown Lynn 'Ruskin' type glazes that I was sent some time ago, but it eludes me ......
Note that Manos has added to the Q&A to say that the piece is not Crown Lynn ... you don't see that very often.

My memory of the conversation was that the location of the piece Richard showed Tom Clark suggested that she had actually made and glazed it at Crown Lynn. I was struck by the similarity between her glazes and shapes and the early Porcelain Specialties pieces when I saw the exhibition at the Corban Estate.

I don't recall ever seeing a glaze combination anything like the one on the piece impressed with 45 though.

Interesting to see the vase in question sold for $70 .... one of our members too.
I found the pic of the 'Ruskin' type glazes and they are soft blues and mauves.
One shape was the same as Jim Drummond's lot 177 and that also mentions the Ruskin type glazing.

This auction [which is nearly finished!] has the same 'Ruskin' type glaze as the ones I mentioned earlier... adding so that you have an idea of what to look out for.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/crown-lynn/vases/auction-471487690.htm