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Post  Ev Mon 30 Apr - 14:12

It's time to start to decipher these letters!
A - Ashtray
B - Bowl
BNB - ?? Bowl
F - [could this stand for Figurine perhaps?]
J - Jug
JH
KV - Ken Lord Vase
NX
OW - Ovenware
P - Paramount
PB - Paramount Bowl
PJ - Paramount Jug
PM - [Paramount Mug maybe?]
PV - Paramount Vase
S - Souvenir ware
SB - Sargoods Bowl
SV - Sargoods Vase
T - Trough
TNB - ?? Bowl
UNB - ?? Bowl
V - Vase
VNB - ?? Bowl
WV - Wall Vase

These are some that I have found and there will be many more, if you come across others please post them and I will add them to the list.
If you have any ideas as to what the letters stand for, please let us know.
Titian supplied Paramount Trading Co and I wonder if the P stands for this company?


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Post  mumof1 Mon 30 Apr - 15:32

Oooooh, now I have just has a kooky idea ~ Does the NB stand for No Base ? I notice that the bnb in the gallery is flat on the bottom (bowl no base) as is the tnb (trough no base). Just a thought, sometimes I have these notions and they seem a little crazy :whistles:
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Post  Ev Mon 30 Apr - 18:05

Laughing I'm fairly sure that the last letter in each of those stand for bowl ...
base no bowl just doesn't sound right .... or trough no bowl :O2laugh:
I have seen some of the letters interpreted and they always were the initials of retailers. Unfortunely I never recorded any of them, but there are people out there that know what they stand for....... just hope that they come by one day .....
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Post  signal red Wed 2 May - 20:45

Hi guys I have an old photo copy of an early catalogue (one page) it has a few numbers
B1O2 AMPHORA BOWL
B107/0 S/S TALL BOWL
B107/1 M/S TALL BOWL
Yes b for bowl
V110 CLASSIC VASE
V111 VIOLET VASE
J106/2 TALL JUG
J104 SWAN JUG
THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM 1962
HOPE THIS IS A HELP

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Post  Ev Thu 3 May - 7:39

Thanks so much signal red as that certainly confirms that B stands for bowl and V stands for vase. I will add J for jug to the list now. Old catalogues are priceless for finding info cheers
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Post  Ev Sun 27 May - 9:00

Thanks to the in depth details on the fantastic titanpottery blog, I've been able to fill in a few of the letter codes and add some more to the list.
K - Ken Lord
S - Sargoods
T - Titian
A - Ashtray
P - Paramount
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Post  sid Thu 7 Jun - 17:37

Hi Eve,
A few possibilites

F could be figurine (marlin F104 flying ducks F101)
PM paramount mug
BNB the first letter could stand for bowl and the NB the retailer or none branded.
TNB trough NB
VNB Vase NB
UNB urn NB

All very cryptic!

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Post  signal red Thu 7 Jun - 20:28

Hi found some more WV =Wall Vase your right eve S= souvernir T= trough , same items may have odd names this is due to tax exemption

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Post  Ev Fri 8 Jun - 6:59

I go along with F standing for figurine sid, as that is logical.
Do you have some of those pieces?
Would really like the ones in the Titian Gallery to have the correct identification.
Also you could be right about PM as this is stamped on a mug that hon-john sent in.
Edits: Just found the mug and it has a Presley Ware sticker on it!!!!
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t1957-presley-ware-pm100-mug-courtesy-of-hon-john
Now I wonder if P could also stand for Presley ..... !
I don't go along with the NB standing for No Brand though, as B for Bowl would be used ...... wouldn't it?

Thanks signal red Smile
I will add Wall Vase and it was mumof1 who suggested that could be the code.

Have you checked out the number codes on the titianpottery website?
Very confusing to me and every time I go back to try to understand it I get distracted by all of the beautiful pottery and still haven't got my head around it!!
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Post  sid Fri 8 Jun - 16:10

Hi Eve
Lots of unknowns on these codes and a number of possibilites.

With the NB codes I think it is the first letter that relates to the object
The NB is the constant and is the name of the retailer.
So BNB is a bowl. The first B being for bowl.
TNB is a trough vase retailed by NB as with the TNB300 trough vase in the gallery.
I also have a UNB300 which could be classified as an Urn.
Hope this makes sence.
Would be great to find some adverts from the 60'S to see which retailers were selling
which Titian products.

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Post  Ev Sat 9 Jun - 9:59

As I'm not sure about any of those letters, I await more posts on the titianpottery blog Wink Nathans for N maybe? Just guessing though Razz I know if they called a vase a bowl they were exempt from the taxes at the time..... as bowls were deemed necessary. I can't find any reasons for placing the B for bowl at the beginning for some, then at the end for others ... just doesn't make sense .....
Perhaps U for Urn as that sounds good to me Smile I will add U to the list.
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Post  Ev Sat 9 Jun - 18:21

I commented on the titianpottery blog about how confusing the numbering system is and the exciting response was to ask if I would be interested in seeing a letter from Cameron Brown regarding the lettering and numbering system and the names of the retailers that they supplied, which would be posted onto the blog! cheers
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Post  Ev Sun 10 Jun - 9:17

The letter from Cameron Brown Senior has been posted!!!
http://titianpottery.blogspot.co.nz/2012_06_01_archive.html

The list of Wholesalers and the brand names used is priceless information!
It appears that your thoughts are correct Sid ..... Well Done!
Just need to digest it all now.......

Does anyone have a Titian woodgrain vase, as I am entranced by them and would love to put one up as the site photo in honour of Titian's unique creativity.
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Post  mumof1 Sun 1 Jul - 18:18

Titian letter codes .. Dsc01113
My Patu with the swordfish has an S number
Titian letter codes .. Dsc01114
It is stamped on the handle back S102
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Post  Ev Mon 2 Jul - 8:24

Nice one sunshine sunny
I will pop it into the Titian Gallery.
We have lots of patu in there, but sadly they don't have numbers.
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