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Post  isaacwulf Mon 5 May 2014 - 23:18

Here we go ladies and gentlemen, The one the only - Shape 30!!! I don't think a Photo has been recorded yet on the forum. Some people say its a jug but its actually a handled vase. Just beautiful.


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Post  isaacwulf Mon 5 May 2014 - 23:34

How do I download photos?
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Post  Ev Tue 6 May 2014 - 6:07

Hi isaacwulf,
This topic shows you how to upload photos,
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t225-this-is-how-it-s-done-good-luck-d

but if you like you can email a photo to the site at newzealandpottery@gmail.com and I will load it for you when I get a chance.
Actually we do have a shape 30 on the site -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/gallery/Crown-Lynn-Shapes-01-881/1-to-99/30-pic_1532.htm
They made several Jug/Vases so I will be keen to see which one you have.
Cheers Ev
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Post  isaacwulf Tue 6 May 2014 - 9:50

Hi Ev

I thought shape 30 was a handled vase? I must not have a crown lynn then Sad
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Post  isaacwulf Tue 6 May 2014 - 12:02

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Post  Ev Tue 6 May 2014 - 12:10

Bravo at posting pics cheers
I don't know who made that beautiful jug/vase.


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Post  isaacwulf Tue 6 May 2014 - 12:43

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Post  Ev Sun 28 Dec 2014 - 8:44

A trader has listed 4 pieces with glazes similar to this bottle and claims that they were made by Crown Lynn. They all have numbers on the base. The glazes remind me of what is called Crown Lynn Ruskin ware, though I have never found anything that confirms that they made this range ...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=826590607
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Post  teaandcoffee Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 17:58

Hope everyone had a great holiday. We traveled a bit and needless to say visited the usual types of haunt along the way. We barely even saw a Crown Lynn white vase for sale the whole journey! Even three or four years ago there was a lot more to look at. Must be all in collections now I dare say.

Ev, as you know the vases in that auction are one of the CL perennial debates. Some affirm they are, some others point out the relative diversity of otherwise unknown shapes which are found in this colourway - which is also very unusual for Crown Lynn - mean that they are unlikely to be CL. The very good, even quality of the running glaze is also a point that suggests hesitation because, if they are CL, they would date to perhaps 1943-1945 - and as far as I know, the trickle/triple glazes didn't really approach reliable quality until just after the war. I heard that they employed Briar Gardiner as a glaze consultant about 1943, which if you have had a selection of Briar pieces, you will know is a bit like asking a largely self-educated lady hobbyist to suddenly transform herself into a professional industrial chemist. Actually, that is exactly what the situation must have been. She was set up for failure. No wonder they didn't start getting reliable glaze results until some trained industry expertise arrived from Britain right after the end of the war.

There was a very recent Dunbar Sloane auction, which you referenced somewhere else, that had quite a number of these pieces. Simon Manchester was very cautious in his description of them and called them "possibly Australian." That, I think, is as good-a guess as any.


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Post  Ev Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 18:31

Thanks for your input teaandcoffee and a Happy New Year to you too.
It's been glorious for travelling with summer reigning supreme! I'm bidding on a Crown Lynn shape that has a glaze in tones that remind me of the Ruskin type ware and I'm keen to see if my thoughts are correct or not.
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Post  teaandcoffee Sat 10 Jan 2015 - 23:53

There are a number of pieces by this manufacturer on Trademe at present. I stumbled across the following in an online antique shop - it is in America and they believe the vase was made in the U.S. It has the same type of numbering and glaze as the ones purporting to be CL on Trademe.

http://www.tias.com/vintage-art-pottery-drip-glaze-vase-30011.html

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Post  Ev Sun 11 Jan 2015 - 6:56

How interesting! Yes I've been keeping an eye on those TradeMe listings and noticed that one sold to an avid collector. This listing from the range is a distinctive oriental shape - http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/crown-lynn/vases/auction-831832266.htm
These are made using a white clay so wouldn't be from pre Crown Lynn days as they claim I don't think.
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Post  Ev Sun 8 Mar 2015 - 11:34

This auction may have the answers to many questions about this ware!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/other-british-manufacturers/other/auction-856183940.htm
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Post  Ev Mon 9 Mar 2015 - 11:13

After extensive searching Pilkington's and Ruskin I cannot find a connection to this range that is sometimes called Crown Lynn in imitation of the Ruskin pottery.  So the mystery remains for me at least.
Ruskin pottery has the word Ruskin stamped on the base as does this listing on TradeMe at the moment -
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=855127781

Pilkington's pottery has a large scrolled P on the base and I couldn't find numbers on any pieces made by either pottery.
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