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Post  mike67 Sun 11 May - 12:15

I have been looking through the posts regarding the Cook & Serve coffee cans and saw mention of the Kelston variation of these. I remember reading in Val RM's book about the silk screen decoration on them. This can definitely looks like it is silk screen decorated. Can anyone confirm this? The pattern is named "Candy Stripe" No. 528/523? Similar to the pattern on the bevelled bottom can on page 81 of the afore mentioned book but only in two colours. I haven't any saucers for these...what would be the best to look for? Cheers, Mike.
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Post  Ev Sun 11 May - 12:35

Wow thanks Mike as we don't have this pattern in the Patterns Gallery Very Happy
The pattern number for Candy Stripe is 528 and I will pop it into the Gallery now.
Hopefully others can help with your question.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Sun 11 May - 17:06

Mike,
if your can has a standard footring, which is likely if it is marked Kelston, then it is a 3022 and it's all spelled out in the topic below. Colour is an interesting question as I have only seen them with colours matching the pattern colour. Brown is easy. Orange would be nice.

http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t4855-coffee-can-shapes-872-3022-3023-3618-from-gallery-definitions#18502

If it has the reduced footring then it will be a 3023, and I have not yet identified a saucer shape number for those yet. I have only seen black saucers for those.

http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t3067p15-which-cups-go-with-what-saucers#16532

The only patterns seen on a 3023 so far are Purple Myrtle, Arthur and Martha, and Captain Sharples.

Could you add a photo of the base to confirm the shape.
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Post  mike67 Sun 11 May - 18:21

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Photo of the base!
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Sun 11 May - 18:47

I was suspicious of the colour of this as it was such a clean white where the 3022s tend to look a bit faded.

This is a 3023!
Therefore I have no shape number for the saucer, but the links above will at least show you what they look like. Now I'm curious as to whether this one would have a coloured saucer of just plain black like the others. Colour would certainly be more fun.

Good luck hunting.
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Post  mike67 Sun 11 May - 18:54

Thanks Jeremy. The can is a very crisp white. The base is too just a low light photo as you could probably tell. Thanks also for the links.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Mon 12 May - 1:25

Mike, I believe these saucers are correct for your 3023 cup:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/auction-726522902.htm

From what banker says in the QA it appears they are also correct for jumbo tulips.

If the 805/4058 is the saucer for the standard tulip cups (781), then I'm wondering if this can be the 744.

Ev, if you see this, do you have a larger picture of the 744 to look at?

(BTW I think either bopmum or JanPots also has one of these cups.)
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Post  JanPots Mon 12 May - 6:44

Its me, I have this one! Its simalar to Tallahassee pattern  opps! was this not in the gallery -- Embarassed 
I don't have a saucer to help you confirm your answer, to Mike..
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Post  Ev Mon 12 May - 7:42

It's hard to see, but it's the best I can do Jeremy.  It looks bigger than the 805 ...

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Post  Jeremy Ashford Mon 12 May - 10:52

Ev,
I enlarged the portion of the museum picture with the saucers (on the computer) until the photo of the 805 was the size of an actual 805 ...

... then compared sizes of the 744 photo and the saucers from belonging to my 3023 cups.

The outside diameter is right, and the shadow in the photo showing the position of the cup-well relative to the edge measures up correctly for a large-well saucer too.

This indicates that the 744 in the photo is the same size as the saucers for my 3023 cups, shown below.

So, I believe the saucers belonging to my 3023s are 744s.
(There is no description in the gallery for a four-digit remake of the 744 saucer.)
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744 saucer!

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Edits to say this Purple Myrtle on trademe is also on a black colour glaze saucer:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/pottery-glass/porcelain-pottery/crown-lynn/cups-saucers/auction-730897295.htm


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Post  Ev Mon 12 May - 11:05

Good work Jeremy, I'm just wondering if they made the can in the three digits? It's odd that the saucer has three digits and not four ..... more research is needed for time frames really to get a better picture.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Mon 12 May - 11:31

Yes it is an odd pairing.  Just a reminder ...
... I bought 6 Purple Myrtle cans in their original box complete with 6 of these saucers.

There is no equivalent can with a three digit number. A reminder below how this shape arose. Only the original Cook & Serve can has a 3D number.
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L-R: 1, 2, 3, 4
1 872 Cook & Serve can
2 3618 Reflections can, defined as "Altered Base 782 and replaces same" (vitrified)
3 3022 unnamed pattern can, defined as a "782 Cup" (earthenware)
4 3023 "530s" cans defined as "Altered Base 782 replaces 3022" (earthernware)


As banker pointed out in the saucer auction, linked in a previous post in this topic, this ?744? saucer is also the saucer for the jumbo tulip.

I believe they matched the footring on the 3023s to the existing saucer shape.

I also note with interest that the number for Candy Stripe is 528 and my 3023s are 530-532, suggesting that there will be a 529 in this series! [Edits later to add 527 is Hazel and 533 is Santiago, neither of them on 3023s.]

More here:
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t3186p15-need-help-with-this-cup-please#19112
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Post  JanPots Mon 12 May - 16:12

D529 - reads "Red Legs Vit"  This is from the museum paperwork, its out of focus as I was getting "past-it" taking photos. LOL
The other paperwork that matchs up says GibPat- Export - Red-Legs
Best I can come up with ATM

Ev might have something else on the Data Base?? ....

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Post  Ev Mon 12 May - 16:25

Database has -
529 Dreamsong Brown
529 Redlegs

Redlegs what? Who has Redlegs? Whoever has Redlegs put your hand up!
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