Salisbury vases - and the Salisbury canoe

I didnt buy either of these. One is nicely decorated CL.  The other is one of those numbered pieces - Glen Afton? Admin sorry but can you please  remove the extra pic. I am struggling with my little phone.

The top vase was it handpotted or slipcast Val?..
I will post the cute birdhouse Crown Lynn shape 27 in the Salisbury Gallery.

I'm finding the top vase very fascinating especially as the base is painted in the Harwyn way.  The deco is in the same style as a little shape 12 that keeps being listed on Trademe as Silva, but it looks like the Glen Afton shape 12 in Gail Henry's book.

Can't put it anywhere as there is too much uncertainty as to the maker however !!

The pic is slightly out of proportion due to camera angle. The top looks fatter than it actually is. Kat I am sorry but I can't tell you if it is hand thrown or cast.

Ev do we still have a thread comparing these stamps?  
I can't find it, but there is another stamped 30 here..
https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t7814-do-any-of-these-rancich-silva-pots-have-numbers-sid?highlight=numbers

Do you mean this one Kat?
It took me a while to find it

https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t8847-rancich-silva-shape-25-ej-lewis-decorator

I'm thinking some 3 stamps have fat tails like others..? is the top vase Rancich?

We haven't got that far yet.
It would be great if we could determine the maker by the stamps.
One day hopefully

Maryr  The top vase is early Salisbury Ware.After viewing the base and the top rim i believe it is hand thrown.If correct it would be a vase by Jovan Rancich.

Below there is a early Salisbury Ware canoe ,ascribed no 20 on the painted base .It is from the early Spartan Pottery period.

Thank you for that Oakpot. Keep warm!