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Post  Marl474 on Fri 16 Sep - 15:07

Brownstone  00911Brownstone  01012 This is very like Colonial, can't decipher the words. Madi in NZ for -----
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Post  Jonno on Fri 21 Oct - 8:49

Below is a photo of the backstamp on shape 87 of Brownstone plate one of 3 I have each 225 mm dia.
Stamp is best of 3 and still rather hard to read but says.

BROWNSTONE
Made In
New Zealand
for
UNION CHINA
CO. INC.

(All contained in a 32mm circle)

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Post  Ev on Fri 21 Oct - 19:17

Any ideas on who the Union China.Co.Inc is exactly Jonno?
That's a new one for me ..... but very interesting all the same.
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Post  Jonno on Fri 21 Oct - 22:56

No I am not aware of who they are ( were) but the title of the company ending in
CO.INC. indicates that it was an American company and that these plates were exported or Crown Lynn were trying to make out that they were making the plates for an American company.

However unless we could get back to the records we will probably never know, CL were very adept at spoofing the origin of their pottery adding the word British to the backstamp for example.

Nice little mystery.



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Post  mrnarna on Sat 22 Oct - 9:56

found this

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6143263
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Post  Jonno on Sat 22 Oct - 10:59

Thanks for that mrnarna you are a real sleuth.
I just love the contrast between the two types of china.

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Post  gloworm on Fri 13 Apr - 20:59

Hello. I was curious about this vitrified plate too. The one I have has the similar backstamp - though I can read mine better. in circle - BROWNSTONE made in new zealand for Burden China Co Inc. Google search shows this company as still existing with an address in California -and distributing vitreous china to the Asian market.
I also have another plate exact same shape/style in cream colour without any backstamp.
The made in new zealand part makes me think this may be a backstamp used by Crown Lynn in the later years when they were trying to enter international markets.

My thoughts are yes I think this is a backstamp used by Crown Lynn

Any comments or further information?
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Post  Jonno on Sun 15 Apr - 9:14

Hi Gloworm,
Are you able to post a photo of the backstamp of your plate.
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Post  Ev on Sun 15 Apr - 12:07

Thanks to gloworm for asking about pen holders, I found Brownstone d276 vitrified on the same page in the Decoration Advices so this would have been made in the late 1970's as the Wombles are a few lines down cheers
Must check if this is in the Tableware Patterns Gallery or not :scooter:
Yes Brownstone is in the Gallery, just had to add the decor number Very Happy
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Post  gloworm on Mon 16 Apr - 12:53

Hello. Have provided some pics - indications are that the Burden China is a backstamp used by Crown Lynn, possibly along the same lines of a marketing relationship as with the GIBPAT range, gibson & paterson by Crown Lynn.

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The 2 dinner plates about 250mm across. Cream weighs about 760gm the brown about 20grams lighter
Glaze is very high gloss. Cream compared to a forma shape oval plate is very similar glaze with same grainy colour differing in a high gloss finish.
The brownstone plate is a bit darker and redder than the supervitrified brown - quite similar though
I hope this is useful information. Basketball
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Post  gloworm on Sat 22 Sep - 12:31

I am interested that you have included the Whitestone backstamp as Crown Lynn
seems the same as the one demonstrated in discussion below,
mine is plain with no backstamp.

Have added photo of Brownstone plate and backstamp,
further discussion re identification below

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Post  Ev on Sat 22 Sep - 14:55

Hi gloworm, I found the deco number for Whitestone in the Deco Advices from the Museum ... see the topic -
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t879-whitestone-d0256-made-in-new-zealand-by-crown-lynn#2230
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