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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Fri 21 Nov - 18:23

1454 Titianware biscuit barrel on tm: new shape?

Looks to be smaller than the 1365: 19 H x 17 W

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Other/auction-810962717.htm

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Post  Ev on Fri 21 Nov - 18:45

I will check this out when I get a chance as I think there were a couple of sizes of these at least.  A shame they don't have a photo of the base and number as these are commonly misread.

I found the modellers drawing for this -

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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sat 22 Nov - 1:35

This is great Ev.
The drawing shows two different sized jars. The larger one seems to approximate the 1365, so the other is likely the tm one.

I think it also tells us why Mike's one looks different from the 1365 on the forum: Judging by the adjacent salt pig I think it might be the smaller one.
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See the topic here:
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5678-kitchen-scene-transfers-on-lollie-jar-and-salt-pig#21683
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Post  mike67 on Sat 22 Nov - 9:55

Yep I think you are right Jeremy. It has the same neck where the opening is almost up to the top of the jar. Other shape there is a definite return down to the opening. I will measure it later today. It is pretty big tho.
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Post  Ev on Sat 22 Nov - 12:13

Heh my post must have turned to cyber dust...

I checked out Google and found a few of the 1454's. The measurements varied a bit but they were bigger than Jonno's. I will add mike's to the gallery when I get home.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 23 Nov - 12:08

Ev, I thought from the measurements for the 1365 and 1454 that the 1454 was the smaller one: 22 across (diameter) for 1365 and 19 for 1454., but the same depth thru making the 1454 look chunkier.
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Post  Ev on Sun 23 Nov - 12:41

Hi Jeremy, as the measurements that I got from old listings varied so much I could be mistaken. Here is what I found:
1454 - 17x12x16.5
" - 17x17x11.7
" - 17x12x16.5

I only checked Jonno's measurements for the 1365
1365 - 11x21x12

Of course I could have got these the wrong way around.
The 21 seems big to me now ...... Ok I agree with you now Smile
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