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Red Lake Buff d071, Red Lake d408 and Richmond d635 Empty Red Lake is d071 on the rimmed ware, but what is that pattern on the Classique shape?, Richmond d635 on the coffee can ware

Post  Ev on Tue 19 Jan - 18:48

Photo from another topic from mumof1 of Red Lake on the rimmed ware d071

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Marl said that she has seen this pattern named Firestorm, but I don't know what shape it was on.  Help !!

Here it is on the Classique shape ware courtesy of the Viking ....

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Post  Ev on Wed 20 Jan - 17:31

Didn't find the pattern name for the Classique ware, but did find it for the same pattern on the cans 3038 and saucer 4043 etc and it is Richmond d635'
Does anyone have one of these?
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Post  JanPots on Wed 20 Jan - 19:27

I have... but not a low sol glaze.
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Post  Ev on Wed 20 Jan - 19:35

What shaped ware is your one on Janice?
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Post  JanPots on Wed 20 Jan - 21:05

I have 2 both are the 3038 cans but have the speckle glaze and one has the brown band.
trying to find a photo....
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Post  JanPots on Sat 23 Jan - 9:28

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One is clover speckled glaze the other is low so white glaze.
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Post  Ev on Sat 23 Jan - 18:49

Ulp's .... that means that there are more pattern names out there that we don't know about !! Hopefully they will turn up somewhere .......
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Post  Ev on Mon 16 Apr - 9:49

Came across this Red Lake Buff record the other day and knew that I had it.

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It seems to me that Red Lake d408 is on the glow white on rimmed ware and I have updated the gallery regarding this.

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Janice, we have the record for Richmond d635, but haven't identified it yet, so it's not in the gallery.  It will be one of your lot.



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Post  JanPots on Mon 16 Apr - 16:53

I have the exact cup . But with a brown band. I am.sure I have lol...I'd have to go and look.
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Post  Ev on Mon 16 Apr - 19:52

Janice it says there is no band on the Richmond cups ...... wahhhh
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Post  JanPots on Tue 17 Sep - 14:51

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I'm sorting out my hard-drive and found this image.
The cup looks to be the same as yours ? is it Ash or Clover?
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Post  Ev on Tue 17 Sep - 15:34

I think the warm speckles is Clover
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Post  JanPots on Mon 23 Sep - 11:10

I just merged 2 topics as there is valuable information on both.

Looking through my photos of this pattern I have cups -
White Glaze - Tulip shape cup
White Glaze - Classique Shape
White Glaze - 3038 cup shape - referenced as Firestorm ( no number) and Red Lake 071 ( TM listings from ages ago)
White Glaze with thin brown line - 3038 cup
Clover speckled Glaze - 3038 Cup

White Glaze BB plate no back stamp and shape ( not rimmed or coupe )
So we have :-

Red Lake Buff
Red Lake 071
Richmond 635
Red Lake 408

Have I missed any? So which is which?
edits: what about Firestorm - I always knew this pattern to be called firestorm many moons ago


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Post  Ev on Wed 25 Sep - 7:30

Our information is so limited on these, we know that different shapes usually mean different pattern names, also a band usually denotes another pattern.

A new curator is starting at Te Toi Uku at the beginning of October, so I will be able to do some more research and who knows what I will find.
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Post  JanPots on Fri 27 Sep - 7:57

Red Lake 071 seen on TM on a 3019 cup.
White glaze.


The saucer that is with it may not be the correct match ( in my opinion )
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Post  JanPots on Fri 27 Sep - 7:59

I didn't upload the photo as I didn't get permission
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Post  Ev on Fri 27 Sep - 8:07

Do you have a link for that listing please Janice?
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Post  JanPots on Fri 27 Sep - 12:43

2278174423 it's an expired listing.
The saucer has the thin brown band edge and belongs to the coffee can 3038 that I have shown on my previous photos.
The cup 3019 as Red Lake 071 on the backstamp.
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Post  Ev on Fri 27 Sep - 13:34

Thanks !!  The cup is very white and has no band and has Red Lake d071 on the base.
So it will go with a coupe shaped saucer.
Do we have anything in this pattern?
I don't think so ...... arghhhhhhhhh

https://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/home-d%c3%a9cor/plates-bowls/other/listing-2319342857.htm
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Post  Ev on Sun 29 Sep - 16:29

I found this side plate in my stash Janice ....
Coupe with an edge band.
I would think that the background is Ash, because it looks like ash ....

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Post  JanPots on Mon 30 Sep - 9:24

I've been looking at everything again, and there are so many variations !
Someone out there must have some examples ??

So, its just like your BB plate but on "rimmed ware"
we could just use your plate as "Richmond" in the gallery as its showing the pattern, its on Ash and brown the line. but say it should be on rimmed ware?
Its an option until the rimmed ware turns up?

I cant believe that I don't have a 3019 cup!!! what sort of a collector am I? Razz Razz

Edits: thought occurred - on the Richmond paperwork, there is no mention of a saucer because I think it would have just been plain without the flower decal.
I cant find my cup and saucer with the brown band and I know I had 3 of them,
I found this photo - see what I mean about the saucer? ( in saying that, the bands don't look like a match and are they white? I need to find them ! see if there is any reference on the back-stamp ) also meaning I was looking for a rimmed saucer and it may not be what we should be looking for. Does that make sense? So we need to find cups 3038, BB 4043 plates, dinner plate 4046 or dish 4047 as those are on the paperwork for Richmond
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Post  Ev on Mon 30 Sep - 10:20

Big HUGS for being there Janice, you are my patterns person for life xxxx

No unfortunately we can't use my plate for Richmond, as it will be another pattern wahhh
1000 people come here a week looking for information and they will just see the pics and go from there. We need to be as correct as possible.

Red Lake hasn't shown it'self to me yet, but I have noted others mentioning it.
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Post  JanPots on Mon 14 Oct - 16:44

We have an image of Red Lake supplied by Mason Knell from one of the Facebook sites.
Yay...here it is
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Post  Ev on Mon 14 Oct - 16:47

Yay one down and two to go ...
At last this one can go into the gallery.
Great work Janice.
I don't go on any of the Crown Lynn sites as there are so many and there are too many ups and downs for me.
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