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Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
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Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
I went back to the antique shop yesterday, it's amazing what you can find if you look around again, I love this pattern ~ it's unusual, it doesn't immediately shout Crown Lynn, but there you are!
and the backstamp, I don't know if I've seen a pattern number on a super vitrified plate before
perhaps I need to look in the gallery again
and this is a butter dish with the same small fish & a super vitrified #6 stamp
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
I found this link to the picture
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/oceanic-fish/3/1
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/oceanic-fish/3/1
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
I've seen this intriguing pattern on Trademe many times, always listed as Neptune, but I've never ever seen a number for it before...... brilliant work mumof1 ... Bravo!
Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Bless my mum. She's just manage to find me a set in this pattern (minus cups). Hopefully will have this in my possession by the weekend. Very excited as I've always been a fan of the fish themselves...deep water fishies on a plate? Awesome.
Will take photos as soon as I have them. Looking forward to seeing them in person.
Will take photos as soon as I have them. Looking forward to seeing them in person.
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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AND HERE THEY ARE...
The bigger plates are combination of these 7 fish as far as I can work out...will post more if I come over anything new.
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Wow!! I didn't realise that there were that many different fish on that set
Thank you so much
Thank you so much
Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
I know, how cool are they?! My mum is a champ.
Really strange shapes in the set: pin dishes, 2 different saucer shapes (a rounder saucer you'd match with tulip cups and a flatter saucer), B & B plates, 2 different sized coupes (14cm & 18.5cm) and small dinner plates (21.5cm). I'd love to see what the 2 shapes of cups (I'm assuming, 2 saucer shapes, 2 cup shapes)
What's also strange is not one piece says 'Neptune' but there seems to be a star or a number that represents the fish pattern (as opposed to the shape) beneath the coronet. Haven't actually found a pattern in the numbers and stars, just seems like jibberish to me.
Unfortunately, 4 pieces are chipped. :/ Luckily, they're doubles. HOORAH!
Really strange shapes in the set: pin dishes, 2 different saucer shapes (a rounder saucer you'd match with tulip cups and a flatter saucer), B & B plates, 2 different sized coupes (14cm & 18.5cm) and small dinner plates (21.5cm). I'd love to see what the 2 shapes of cups (I'm assuming, 2 saucer shapes, 2 cup shapes)
What's also strange is not one piece says 'Neptune' but there seems to be a star or a number that represents the fish pattern (as opposed to the shape) beneath the coronet. Haven't actually found a pattern in the numbers and stars, just seems like jibberish to me.
Unfortunately, 4 pieces are chipped. :/ Luckily, they're doubles. HOORAH!
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
I will do some Neptune cup research later and see what turns up .... I've seen them listed over the years!
Please try to get hold of a camera with a macro option to take photos of the jibberish so that we can see if it means anything Your Mum deserves a medal
Please try to get hold of a camera with a macro option to take photos of the jibberish so that we can see if it means anything Your Mum deserves a medal
Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Right, so I googled 'macro' and the make of my camera and of course I have this function. Just never knew it was there...terrible I know.
got the back stamps and it seems only the B & B plates have the Neptune stamp. The rest seems random throughout the set...
got the back stamps and it seems only the B & B plates have the Neptune stamp. The rest seems random throughout the set...
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Bravo Well Done DaSiEm
Vitrified ware was made for the hospitality industy and also hospitals etc.
The ware was made using clay that fires higher than the average tableware and this makes it very strong and long lasting.
That jibberish word with the one star backstamp looks like a blurry 'vitrified' from here.
The one star backstamp was used from 1955 according to Val Monk .... a bigger later version was used in the 1960's.
Vitrified ware was made for the hospitality industy and also hospitals etc.
The ware was made using clay that fires higher than the average tableware and this makes it very strong and long lasting.
That jibberish word with the one star backstamp looks like a blurry 'vitrified' from here.
The one star backstamp was used from 1955 according to Val Monk .... a bigger later version was used in the 1960's.
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Actually, my confusion is what the numbers and stars represent. They are really random and didn't seem to represent a plate shape or a specific design.
Does anyone know what they mean?
Does anyone know what they mean?
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Those numbers seem to only appear on vitrified and supervitrified ware.
I've never seen any reference regarding those numbers ...
but they must have something to do with vitrified ware I guess ....
I've never seen any reference regarding those numbers ...
but they must have something to do with vitrified ware I guess ....
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Gosh I was disappointed at the lack of interest in your Neptune plates auction DaSiEm
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I was going to buy them but forgot!! Marl
Marl474- Number of posts : 675
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
There was lots of interest but the finishing time was a black hole. It was during the South Africa vs Samoa game on the North Shore...and I was there! I hadn't completely worked out I had them finishing during the game...:/
All good though, I was really lucky to get the set through my mum and they'll love the plates, chips and all.
I am quite fascinated by the Neptune series, definitely one of my 'keepers'. Now, to track down the cups...
All good though, I was really lucky to get the set through my mum and they'll love the plates, chips and all.
I am quite fascinated by the Neptune series, definitely one of my 'keepers'. Now, to track down the cups...
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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Neptune oval plates
Hi you said you were looking for some oval neptune plates? I have some for sale on Trade Me... but they are not the same number - 765 not 769? Same pics of the fish though.
watergirl- Number of posts : 1
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Hi watergirl, could you please email a pic to the site of the 765 number on the backstamp to newzealandpottery@gmail.com as I would like to check it out -
Thanks Ev.
Thanks Ev.
Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Thanks so much for the photo watergirl as I can tell you that the 765 is the shape of the plate ... not sure about the /10V after it though. Cheers Ev
Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
I meet a serious neptune collector yesterday and she has a cup to this set. I have just emailed her and asked her pretty please for a photo. Anyway the description of the cup is its Black with a white inside and the fish are also on the inside. Can't wait to see a photo.
bopmum- Number of posts : 180
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
O...M...G...I would just squeal if I could get my hands on a cup! I'm in serious need of oval plates and cups in Neptune but not ready to commit an arm or a leg for it.bopmum wrote:I meet a serious neptune collector yesterday and she has a cup to this set. I have just emailed her and asked her pretty please for a photo. Anyway the description of the cup is its Black with a white inside and the fish are also on the inside. Can't wait to see a photo.
My absolute favourite pattern...
DaSiEm- Number of posts : 196
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Re: Neptune pat no 769 for the gallery
Oh forgot to say she said she had a huge Neptune collection, but had only ever found ONE cup, they must as rare as hens teeth. Can't wait to hear back from her to see if she'll give us a photo of her cup.
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