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Post  Ev on Wed 18 Feb - 14:56

There are no markings on the base.... ?

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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 18 Nov - 10:06

I picked this lamp base up at Tikipunga market because it reminded me of the Orzel Basket Weave.

The base without electrics stands about 18cm high and it is 11cm across the bottom.
The bottom is open but covered with woven grass fabric.
The cord exits through a hole at the back, just above the bottom.

It has allover fine crazing.
The glaze colour matches the upper clear glaze on the Orzel mug, the only example I have with this colouring.
I put the sugar canister in the photo to compare with the irregularities where the basket weave breaks open.
It has the same depth of relief in the molding as the canister but the more open design makes it less apparent.
John thinks that this lampbase is either Crown Lynn / Titian.... and it has been confirmed as made by Orzel Lampba10
I don't really like this but thought I should find out about it.
Anyone have any ideas?

(BTW There is an oval sticky patch on the lampholder where a label has been removed.)

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update 15/2/14, another lamp!
John thinks that this lampbase is either Crown Lynn / Titian.... and it has been confirmed as made by Orzel Lampba11
This one has lost its fitting and matting.
There are no marks either on the base or inside.


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Post  Ev on Mon 18 Nov - 13:00

Great thanks Jeremy and I've seen this before, but can't for the life of me think where! It may come to me in my sleep .... hopefully. Could it be Putaruru Ceramics? I will do some searching to see if that is likely.
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Post  Ev on Mon 18 Nov - 14:56

Aha! I found this on Google and now can recall seeing this shape.
John wondered if it was Crown Lynn or Titian ....
and all this time later we still don't know!!
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 18 Nov - 16:46

Ev,
I am pleased with myself. If you are still thinking "Crown Lynn or Titian" then,
despite my dislike of the glaze, I think I've done OK for a beginner (outside my comfort zone).
I've put the two photos side by side to compare the glazes. (They are obviously the same shape.)
John's certainly is a lot nicer, richer, warmer. And I don't think it's just the lighting.
John thinks that this lampbase is either Crown Lynn / Titian.... and it has been confirmed as made by Orzel Cltiti10

As someone who has played around with lamps and light-fittings for the last 20 years, I should be able to date them by their lampholders, which are identical except in colour. But I can't because I preferred to play with brass ones! Looking at the other two lampbases with fittings on the forum, I see that they too, both, have the same lampholder, and one base is a Titian ( http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t1777-titian-lady-lampbase ), and the other Crown Lynn ( http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t1303-the-fabulous-crown-lynn-three-faces-of-eve-lampbase-431r-from-newbie#3423 ).

From my placement of Orzel basket weave you know where I was leaning.
The molded patterns certainly share something. It suggests the Titian/Orzel stable.
We know that the Browns kept some Titian designs when they set up Orzel,
so the basket weave may have been a carry-over.
One or the other, I'm fine. Crown Lynn's OK too. My four dollars wasn't wasted.
(I spend a lot on some things so the cheap bits make me feel better about it.)

I'm going to have to do some more study on this.

Thanks for finding John's lamp topic and putting this where it belongs.


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Post  Ev on Mon 18 Nov - 17:01

John has something like 30 plus years experience with commercial pottery, compared to my meagre few.  He is the one that came up with the Crown Lynn/Titian ideas at the time he sent it to me to load for him ..... I didn't have a clue.  Now, I'm prepared to say that it's neither of these companies.  I would like to find out who made it though. That is why darling lamp base is still languishing in the 'Is This Crown Lynn' category .....
Sure I can merge these topics .... Smile
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 18 Nov - 17:40

A couple more pictures.
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Post  Maryr on Sun 16 Jul - 12:19

The jury is still out re whether these lamps are Orzel. Here is Cam and Bev Brown's pink baking dish for comparison of the style. This baking dish was photographed in their house.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 26 Jul - 17:45

Re: http://www.trademe.co.nz/1364887860

Even after being advised by Andi, Val, and Kat that the this lamp was not what it was advertised as two hapless bidders slugged it out for the right to make an unearned donation of $353.65 to a wilfully ignorant trademe seller.

I paid $3 for my golden one, much the same for my orange one and and found two more for Brooke and Val for $8 and an exorbitant $15.

I did not particularly like my first purchase, as I said above, but felt a lot warmer towards the second. I should cherish them both now that their value has just increased one-hundred-fold, but, no disrespect to their maker, whoever that might be, I'd rather have one of Val's Beach lamps any day.

Btw Andi, do you have one of these? The yellow one is free to you if you want it, blacklisted Lamp Queen!
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Post  Ev on Sun 23 Feb - 14:47

This lamp base shape is now being sold as greenware at Te Puke Ceramics !!!

https://tepukeceramics.co.nz/shop/aztec-small-lamp-base-bisqueware/
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Post  Maryr on Thu 27 Feb - 15:16

Interesting... I read on FB recently that Te Puke Ceramics has collected (rescued?) moulds and shapes from all over the place.
I wonder if this lamp was originally Orzel and found its way into hobby ceramics via Chris Brown and thereby into Te Puke Ceramics.
Have we asked Bev Brown if she recognises it?
I can do that, I actually know where my lamp is so I can take a pic now.
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Post  Ev on Thu 27 Feb - 16:44

It was the FB post that got me to check out what they have and it is endless and there are so many familiar shapes everywhere !!
I don't think we have asked the Browns about this one, but I note that the base is covered in the same material that the Steenstra Beach Artware lamp bases have.
It may pay to ask Sharon if she has ever seen it too ....?
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Post  Ev on Sun 5 Apr - 15:23

Thank go to Val and Bev Brown for the confirmation that this was made by Orzel sometime in the 1980's.
It has taken many years to solve this one cheers
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Post  Maryr on Tue 7 Apr - 12:59

Cameron Brown (Orzel) has seen these posts and told me a bit more about this lamp base.

Cam made it very clear that Orzel made ONLY the ceramic base, then another company added the raffia-style bit on the bottom and the wiring, shade etc. He said their customer described the sort of shape they wanted, often with a drawing. They also specified the size of the holes for the wiring and the light-bulb fitting and Orzel produced a modelled prototype. When that was approved they manufactured the ceramic base - however many were required. He believes this base was probably modelled by Hemara Hemara.

Cam says this lamp base was made in the early 1980s, for someone in New Lynn but he can't remember his name.

He told me that the heyday of his family making lamp bases was in the 1950s and early 1960s. He recalls selling a lot to a company called Littlejohn.

Thanks Cameron for that useful and interesting information.



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