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Post  Ev Fri 22 Nov - 17:49

Sunny and I have noticed more than quite a few of the Titian pieces are replicas of potteries from England and Australia. Cam Brown admitted in a letter on the Titian blog that they did in fact copy other potteries ware. Darned if I can find that letter now!!
So please add a photo of the Titian piece and the pottery that it was copied from.
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Post  Ev Sun 24 Nov - 7:46

Oh no !!  The Rams Head vase was made by Crown Devon
http://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/item/108298-pair-of-crown-devon-art-deco-vases/

Titian's PV 110 version -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t3473-pv-110-rams-head-vase-in-stonehenge-glaze
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Crown Lynn's 602 looks so similar too Suspect 
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t3163-number-602-vase-for-the-gallery
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And another Crown Devon
http://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/item/109371-crown-devon-gondola-shaped-vase-with-ships-decoration/

Titian's PB100 -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t3772-pb-100-in-gorgeous-lustre-with-rose-transfer
Which pieces of Titian pottery were copied from overseas potteries? Pb_10010


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Post  mumof1 Sun 24 Nov - 8:26

At least CL changed the handles on the PB100 sunny 
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Post  mumof1 Tue 26 Nov - 14:18

The B105 http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/gallery/Titian-Gallery/b105-pic_3802.htm was copied from SylVac? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=666970042
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Post  Ev Tue 26 Nov - 19:02

Crown Lynn also made that same shaped vase after they took over Titian Potteries and they gave it a four digit number -
2089 Shell Mantle [was B105] in 1972
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Perhaps I should have put this into the Crown Lynn copies topic ..... Razz 
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Post  Ev Thu 2 Jan - 10:53

I have a couple of the Orzel Wet Your Whistle mugs and found a big one that looked similar, but it was much bigger and had a Japan sticker on it ....

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Post  ambrosia Wed 22 Jan - 20:44

I got a 1356 in dark brown today. Its similar to Denby Chevron

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Post  mumof1 Fri 21 Feb - 16:34

Which pieces of Titian pottery were copied from overseas potteries? Dsc09911
I found these two today in the Hospice shop. The one on the left is thicker in the clay and very rudimentary (looks almost like a hobby ceramics piece, the glaze inside is shocking!), and the one on the right is, of course the Titian SB.201 (priced at $38!)
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I don't know who Booth's Pottery is, if it is English, or in NZ?
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Fri 21 Feb - 17:25

It looks like someone's made a mould from the Titian,
but that's a LOT of shrinkage.

Shrinkage from a plaster mould would not account for that size difference,
but maybe rubber would. I've made latex rubber moulds and as soon as you take the original out they shrink away. If the mud they used was very wet that would account for even more shrinkage as the casting dried out.

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I stand corrected by Ev, below.
The degree of shrinkage seen in the photos above does appear to be in the 10 to 12 percent range. I'm astounded what a change in size that gives.


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Post  Ev Fri 21 Feb - 18:09

As clay shrinks about 10 - 12% I would say that they have probably used a Titian vase to make a mould in this case.
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Post  mumof1 Tue 5 Aug - 9:59

Which pieces of Titian pottery were copied from overseas potteries? Dsc02412
This looks almost identical to the V.116, but
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it's German!
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Post  Ev Wed 25 Nov - 19:12

Goodness this Wade vase looks very familiar arghhhhhhhh
Did they use lustres I wonder out loud ?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=987653691
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Post  mumof1 Wed 25 Nov - 19:18

OMG - it looks just like an SB 202 !
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