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Post  JanPots Sun 5 Jan - 9:34

Re the Museum Pattern book-
I have listed all the pattern names and sorted them into D.S and M numbers.. I am thinking D.S could be D = Design/decoration and S= Style then I thought 'whats a word beginning with M that means template or pattern' ? But who knows?
So for example D.S 19 is the roulette pattern and was used on 5 different patterns ( in the ones showing in the book ie there are probably more) I also have to go back through and look at the NH which seem to be all the Herald type glaze. ( those glazed type plates don't interest me as much LOL) Then I am going to look at the colour coding and get my head around that - I saw that the Band around the rim also have a D.S. number too
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Post  JanPots Sun 5 Jan - 9:44

additional thought.. I have not seen any patterns on the 771 plate that have the white rim only. I have seen the white rim and a band/stripe of matching colour.
Those 'white rim patterns' without a colour band , seem to be on the modern shape plate ( number?) like Annette Grey shaped plate... I think that's why I thought it was the all over pattern.. I will keep this thought in mind when I am going through my stash of plates as I am going to sort them into shapes.  Smile 
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Post  Ev Sun 5 Jan - 10:19

Great stuff that you are working on those cryptic codes Janice cheers
We really need to have a topic just for this so that it can be found again and added to.
I will try to separate this thread .....

Venetia d133 shows the Engraving details and also the Colour details.

The engraving refers to the pattern that is printed onto the Murray Curvex or Dekram plate that is used to stamp the pattern onto the ware rather than using a decal or transfer if you get my drift.  So perhaps one of the numbers refers to the engraving plate pattern?


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Post  Ev Sun 5 Jan - 11:10

I've come up with possible D S meaning ...... Die Stamp.
Jonno may know if this is correct or not.
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Post  Ev Sun 5 Jan - 12:05

There is a photo of the Nirvana Die Stamp near the bottom of this page.
It was at the Crown Lynn Exhibition ..... it will help understand what we are trying to find out about.
There was a metal stamp too and I can't recall the pattern name, but will endeavour to find it anyway!
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Post  JanPots Sun 5 Jan - 12:10

is it this?
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t2060-sylvia-blossom-time-with-gorgeous-backstamp?highlight=sylvia
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Post  Ev Sun 5 Jan - 12:13

No, actually that is a hand stamp that was used to put the backstamps on things.
Here it is -
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t2388-information-on-printing-pottery
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Post  Jonno Tue 7 Jan - 12:34

I wonder if the M was for Murray-Curvex printed patterns? The metal plate in he background of the photo I posted from the display is the Lithographic etched plate that when inked printed the plate in the foreground.

This is another CL crafty mystery , in a hurry right now will get back later.
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Post  JanPots Tue 7 Jan - 12:58

most of the patterns seem to be Murray Curvex and have both M and DS. I am unsure what it means... does this help?
Tres-Bon says D.S. 29 or (M.7 Emergency only) which amused me slightly ---
Also Moonglow Orange as M.40 and Moonglow Blue D.S. 8
D.S 71 for corvette and similar other patterns using DS. 71 - then listed under M9 is impala, Bel air and Turkestan, (but no image of the pattern, I just know impala and bel-air look like corvette)
M9 B is shown for Blue Pacific which makes sense as the other M9 have been crossed out, so they could have re-cycled the number...
Everglade is M.50 or D.S 12
I am still logging everything, I am sure it will make sense at some point !!!
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Post  Jonno Wed 8 Jan - 15:31

Sorry had a good scratch around but nothing exciting has popped up so far .

I am puzzled however with the comment:-

Venetia d133 shows the Engraving details and also the Colour details.


as Venetia d133 does not seem to show in the gallery? and in the same post the word
Dekram is used after Murray-Curvex?

Ah Sweet Mystery..........
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Post  Ev Wed 8 Jan - 15:37

Sorry if we have confused you Jonno, but Venetia is a pattern in the Museum Patterns Book and it was done on the Murray Curvex machine. We don't have a photo of this pattern yet, but the details on that page are extremely interesting.
They also used the Malkin and the Dekram for different patterns, but mainly the Murray Curex for the patterns that are in the Patterns Book.
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