Does anyone recognise these birds?

I've had these birds for 30years and never gave them much thought.
Finally got around to zapping off some photos.
They're both about 8 inches high.
I've got a Crown Lynn Kiwi somewhere too but can't find it.

Bird 1



Bird 2


This base looks like plaster but the bird sounds ceramic.

Hmmm could you compare the parrot to a Crown Lynn one. Heather would have put one on the site somewhere.

There's one advertised at the moment:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/ornaments-figurines/animals/auction-690432368.htm

Is that the real deal?

There are similarities but the photos are at different angles so I can't see how similar they are. I just took the one rushed photo before we left yesterday so I can't supply any more info just now.

When I said the plaster one sounded ceramic I really meant it sounded hollow, as though the bottom may have been filled in later.

Neither one looks like the Crown Lynn one to me. If you would like photos on the same angles, let me know.

mumof1,
Thanks for the offer but I'll take your word for it.
Those are the only pics I have so I can do no more than you have done already.

The red airbrushed paint on the base of the first bird looks very much like the red one used on the old brick and wall vases that came in wire frames. My son thinks that the Nr.2 bird looks like a falcon.

Thanks, hazelnuts, but I don't really know what that means.

The two birds are not the CL parrot.

I have got a red conical wall vase like this one of mumof1's in the unnumbered gallery which has been airbrushed in red like the base of one of your birds.
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t2628-i-can-t-find-a-number-for-this-wall-vase?highlight=no+number red

Also a CL 541 wall vase and a CL 568 with wire frame in the same bright red. The way the red paint residue sprinkles show up inside the bird is the same too on my vases.

May be the maker of the second bird modelled a Falcon? The colours of it remind me of the more mute colours that Flambeu pottery used.

Perhaps the two birds are new shapes? Or they were modelled for Salisbury/Royal Oak or Flambeu pottery to decorate?