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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Tue 1 Apr - 20:20

What is the pattern on this Cook & Serve casserole?

SMALL & LARGE Shape 25 casseroles & lids 5612, 5613, 5614, 5615 Cs210
tuitua from trademe has kindly let us use her photo. This is a closeup.

Here's the auction:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/Porcelain-pottery/Crown-Lynn/Bowls-dishes/auction-713009658.htm

The full picture.SMALL & LARGE Shape 25 casseroles & lids 5612, 5613, 5614, 5615 Cs12


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Post  JanPots on Tue 1 Apr - 20:22

Unsure -- I have not come across that one! Unless Ev has some brochures of Cook & Serve?
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Post  Ev on Wed 2 Apr - 7:36

I've never seen that one before either!
There is another 'Angular' looking Cook & Serve pattern too that I don't know the name of.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 2 Apr - 13:46

And what shape is it?
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 3 Apr - 16:21

Is this a Shape 25 casserole and lid?

No one made any suggestions what shape it might be so I had a look around.

All I can say is that the style of the lid matches the lid of a Carnaby coffee pot which is Shape 25, and the bottom of the basin seems to have the same bevelled cutaway as seen on all the Shape 25.

There are no Shape 25 casseroles in the gallery, small or large.
The measurements for this given in the auction listing indicate the smaller size as it is only 7.5cm high by 19.5 wide. My 5622, which is bigger takes 2 litres and the choices for this are small 2 pints (1.2l) or large 4 pints (2.4l).

5612 - Small Shape 25 Casserole Lid & Knob
5613 - Small Shape 25 Casserole 2 pt
5614 - Large Shape 25 Casserole Lid & Knob ... first made Nov 67
5615 - Large Shape 25 Casserole 4 pt  - first made 1968


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Post  Ev on Thu 3 Apr - 16:51

Thank you and I totally agree with you as all of the other Shape 25 pieces were made between Oct 1967 and Nov 1967. This includes jugs, eggcups, cup, beaker, sugar basin and the 2pt and 4pt casseroles. I have no idea what the size of tuitua's casserole would be from the measurements, so I am totally relying on Jeremy's knowledge for this and I will add it to the Gallery cheers
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 3 Apr - 16:52

I edited above while you were replying to suggest small rather than my original inclination for large.
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Post  Ev on Thu 3 Apr - 16:53

So is it a small or large casserole Jeremy?
Ok so we crossed again.....
Small shape 25 is 5613 and the lid is 5612
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 3 Apr - 16:56

It must be the small Ev as there are only two.

I got my 5622 down and a measuring jug to find it only held 2 litres and as it is physically bigger than this one I have to go with small.

I am taking a pint as equal to 600ml.
That's an Imperial pint. The American pint is different!


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Post  Ev on Thu 3 Apr - 17:03

I just need to put the pattern in the No Names Gallery now.
Thank you for being so helpful Jeremy!
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 3 Apr - 17:11

It's great that we got two new shapes here,
and can now look out for the larger ones,
knowing what they will look like.

The time of the shape may also give some clue as to the pattern.

When I first saw this I thought Shape 25 but got bogged down elsewhere.

I will pass the info on to Nicole (tuitua), seeing as she let us use her photo.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Fri 4 Apr - 11:29

They have the large size at Hospice in Green Bamboo for $30.
I didn't have a camera. Maybe next week.
Hand and finger measure makes it about 230mm OD x 100 mm H at lip.

Actual measurements for 5615 large Shape 25 casserole given as 254mm x 95mm,
in this auction for Autumn Splendour:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Pottery-glass/auction-712116018.htm
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Post  JanPots on Fri 4 Apr - 17:03

while looking around my notes.. I always get back to something that has already been researched before LOL

I started with a image of a leaflet of the shapes for A/Splendour and ended up here! 
http://newzealandpottery.forumotion.net/t2846-looking-for-autumn-splendour-shapes?highlight=autumn

Is this the same casserole sizing very close? 4th picture in the list ( Marl474) - wonderful collection by the way  Very Happy 

Unsure if it helps in any way?
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Fri 4 Apr - 17:58

Janice, I think the casserole in that topic is the same as the genuine Pioneer casseroles,
The ones that aren't 5620-5622. They have those open top knobs.

I'm pretty sure we haven't given a number to those yet.

However, the Autumn Splendour in the link I put in today is Shape 25.
Shape 25 knobs are flat on top..
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Post  gbking on Fri 4 Apr - 18:40

I have both the large and small sizes in Green Bamboo, can't figure out how to upload pics, (I'm sure it is real easy) so hopefully these links will work
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/311408866.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/311408738.jpg
The smaller is about 195 in diameter and the larger is about 240mm
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Post  Ev on Fri 4 Apr - 19:44

Woo Hoooo thank you so much gbking Very Happy
I'm going to post those pics for you as the ones on TM disappear after a month or so.

Large Shape 25 casserole courtesy of gbking -
SMALL & LARGE Shape 25 casseroles & lids 5612, 5613, 5614, 5615 Shape_11

Small Shape 25 Casserole from gbking -
SMALL & LARGE Shape 25 casseroles & lids 5612, 5613, 5614, 5615 Shape_12

I will pop the Large 5615 Casserole with lid 5614 Lid - which is a 4 pint one into the Gallery and credit you for the photo thank you so much! cheers

Just wondering if this has the Cook & Serve logo on the base ....?
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Post  gbking on Sun 6 Apr - 16:48

Yes both have the Cook and Serve Logo on base
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