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Post  Ev on Sun 22 Mar 2015 - 9:48

Surely we have one of these somewhere?  I will have to check my stash, but gosh it looks like the vitrified shape cup 3622 doesn't it?

http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3384/object/490470/Cup


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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 22 Mar 2015 - 10:10

From memory Portage had a lot of different numbers on hotel stacking cups with minor variations that we appear not to have.

We do not have a 3641 in the gallery.

Ev, I understand Bristile was an Aussie company, and my sole example of their work is a tall hotel cup similar to the 3610.

So why would CL produce a cup with The name Bristile?

Also, I don't look at the 7000s often so I was very surprised just now to see a demitasse cup 7601 and saucer 7620.

Further investigation shows a shape crossover with Crown Lynn and Bristile/Wembly-Ware shapes.

See Wembly Ware here:
http://www.wembleyware.org/category/bristile-china/

Maybe CL was contracting to Bristle ????

Note the similarity of styling with the CL 7640 teapot and the Wembly Ware coffee pot.

Note: Mark Cleverley designed the hotel stacking range.
I have seen no indication that he copied it, so is the Bristile cup a copy or reproduction of Cleverley's design or was hotel stacking simply an international style that Cleverley brought to CL?
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Post  Ev on Sun 22 Mar 2015 - 10:23

Jeremy there are heaps of Crown Lynn Bristile records ..... all with numbers starting from 7600.  Unfortunately many in the records are unreadable.  We have managed to find a couple of shapes and that is all.  There is a photo in a Ceramco magazine showing a whole dinner ware range at a high class hotel displaying the new Bristile range about 1983.  We just share what we find, we don't make it up as we go along.

I have found Australian Bristile ware too, but I'm fairly sure it's not made by Crown Lynn or it would have Crown Lynn or New Zealand on the backstamp.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 22 Mar 2015 - 11:23

Ev, has there ever been any indication that Bristile was one of the overseas companies that Crown Lynn bought into?

Such an arrangement would certainly explain Crown Lynn using Bristile shapes, and also Bristile apparently using the Cleverley hotel stacking range.

Even part-ownership would give them a foot in the door.

This leads me to a further possibly related question I have been pondering which is what happened to Crown Lynn's financial records when the company closed down?

I think there may be some answers in the Ceranco history that popped up in a google search for both Bristile and Crown Lynn together. I haven't read it yet but the google result had the words "Bristile Agencies (Pty) Ltd".

https://zeusindustriesdionelipivacenterprises.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ceramco-history.pdf

No title page but I deduce it was published in 1979.

FOUND IT !!!!
At the bottom there is a list of holdings which includes "Associated companies":
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Bristile Agencies (Pty) Ltd (50%)
Distr of vitrified hotelware
Locations: Sydney, Melbourne
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As this just says distributor it gives no clue to Australian manufacture.
I suppose Bristile was similar to Gibsons and Paterson, which was wholly owned by Ceramco at the time of writing.

There is also a potted history of Gibsons and Paterson in the document.

Tom Clark was wanting to make Ceramco an Australasian company, 2/3 NZ 1/3 Aus.

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History of Wembly Ware, the Australian manufacturers of Bristile:
http://www.wembleyware.org/history-of-the-factory/

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BRISTILE is a compound name:

BRIS-TILE

The BRIS comes from H.L.Brisbane and Wunderlich Ltd,

Wunderlich was a huge Aussie company which manufactured, inter alia, Marseille tiles and pressed zinc sheeting for wall and ceiling lining. I have a book about the company somewhere, God knows where.

So maybe pronounced Bris-Tile, or Briz-Tile, rather than Briss-Teal.
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Post  Wembley ware on Mon 23 Mar 2015 - 4:58

Bris tile is correct

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