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Post  JanPots Sun 10 Jan - 16:59

From looking at the photos from the Portage Trust; I think I have figured out "Colony Vitrified Range" It looks very similar to Pioneer but it has a very defined glaze.
The saucer for Colony range measures 135mm as per the leaflet (which a saucer I have; is that size,) whereas pioneer is forma shape and bigger.
Ev I will have to email you the photos as I need to figure out how to switch HTML on ! I think its because I am in Internet Explorer???
I am fed up with Pc's ATM!!!! LOL


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Post  Ev Sun 10 Jan - 17:16

Photos from Janice ....

Colony Vitrified Range & Pioneer & Redwood Colony11

Colony Vitrified Range & Pioneer & Redwood Col_gl10

Colony Vitrified Range & Pioneer & Redwood Col_di10

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Post  Jeremy Ashford Tue 12 Jan - 15:55

I'll need to review my Pioneer-y stuff to see what might actually be this pattern.
I have 3624/4624 combos, at least I did so I may have moved them on or stored them. I still have matching small bowls, could be fruit dishes, not sure of the number without checking. The glaze on those seems to be a match for CookServe soup bowls etc, teapot, and a baker.

Is Colony the vit version of Pioneer and/or Redwood?
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Post  JanPots Tue 12 Jan - 15:58

J said... Is Colony the vit version of Pioneer and/or Redwood?
Umm I was wondering exactly that today! But its on different shaped ware... Janice
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Post  JanPots Fri 15 Jan - 19:47

Colony Vitrified Range & Pioneer & Redwood 2016-011
Well.... that was tricky. ... upload from my phone....
Pioneer and what I think might be colony. Top one......
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Post  Ev Fri 15 Jan - 20:00

Wasn't there a Pioneer vitrified Janice?
Sorry but I'm still stumbling around with this topic.
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Post  JanPots Fri 15 Jan - 20:03

Unsure .... I will look into it further. .. Razz
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Post  Jeremy Ashford Fri 15 Jan - 21:27

https://www.newzealandpottery.net/t737-pioneer-crown-lynn-tableware#1853

shows casseroles etc.

... so yes to Pioneer vitrified.

From that I would expect that the casseroles etc from 5631 on that are in the similar glaze would be Pioneer, but the earlier 5620 etc may not be, although I have been using that pattern name for convenience as everyone knows what I mean.
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Post  JanPots Mon 27 Aug - 8:53

Just looking through my files... "" feeling inspired""  after going to The Portage Trust, yesterday !
Anyways.. still think  this is Colony - for the gallery. The top cup and saucer above

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Post  Ev Mon 27 Aug - 9:25

Looks like it, but what about Rusticanna the vitrified one?
Are the shapes different?
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Post  JanPots Mon 27 Aug - 9:36

I've not seen the vitrified Rusticanna -
Also, I don't think I have any of this glaze left to cmpare .....as I gave them away :O(
lets ""stick a pin in the subject"" hahaha
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Post  Ev Mon 27 Aug - 11:02

I will check this out with all the records I have from the Museums.
When I can *coughs*
It's about time we sorted this one Razz
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Post  Ev Mon 27 Aug - 14:10

These are my findings for you to cast your eyes over.
I agree that your cup and saucer on top of the Pioneer duo is Colony Janice. cheers

Colony is in a 1988 Stocktake:
3641 Metro tea cup
4624 Stacking Hotel Saucer
4612 Plate
4614 Dinner Plate
4616 Lunch Plate
4617 Fruit Dish
4633 Rimmed Oatmeal
5619 Bowl
8610 Oval Salad
3626 Ashtray
Another list for Govt., Supplies from January 1988 includes also:
3622 Stacking Hotel Tea cup - which is the one in Janice's photo
8622 Steak Plate
8633 Divided Dish
8613 Oblong Dish
4636 Butter.

Rusticanna is Earthenware and on Forma

Pioneer on Forma d17400 has Ovenware in these shapes which will all be ovenproof:
Glazed in plain brown like the Pioneer brown.
A note to say this will no longer be available after June 1988.
8637 Large Flan
8655 Large Oval Baker
8656 Medium Oval Baker
5638 Souffle
2 litre Casserole and Lid

Pioneer d17400 is on Classique shapes.

Pioneer d677 is on what shapes?  I have a bowl in the Gallery with that stamp on it.  It's the rounded 'Salad' Bowl.
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Post  JanPots Mon 27 Aug - 14:29

Yay.... The 1981 leaflets show the difference in shapes... Id never looked before !



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Post  JanPots Mon 27 Aug - 14:55

Ev... Page 9 of the booklet, this will have the shape...
Do you have it? Im still looking LOL--- edits.. found it !!

Colony Vitrified Range & Pioneer & Redwood 56110

says ( Forma Shape )

Colony Vitrified Range & Pioneer & Redwood 218_210
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Post  JanPots Mon 27 Aug - 15:27

I also found a price list typed out as Pioneer but handwritten "Redwood"  written above --- for the Classique shape
& a photo of Redwood
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Post  Ev Mon 27 Aug - 16:40

Wow!! I think I wrote that out by hand as it was before cameras were allowed.
Think I have that photo though and will dig deeper.
I have this 1988 Stocktake record for Pioneer/Redwood

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Post  Ev Tue 28 Aug - 15:30

Put aside all of my Pioneer and vitrified ware in the same glaze when I unpacked from the market today.

The large group is all Vitrified Ware and the two pieces on the right have Pioneer d677 on them. Hoping this will help in some way?????

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Post  JanPots Fri 5 Oct - 9:26

Bumps...for me.
I'm going to look into this one again. Lol
But later this weekend.
I'm still convinced the square dish at the top is Colony. As it has a warm Speckle in the glaze, whers pioneer does not.
But the redwood/ pioneer price list has put an extra spin on the research .
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