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Post  Ev on Sun 12 Oct - 14:47

haselnuss wrote:Ev, The frilly brown vase has a Steenstra look because of the sharp lines and the pattern too.

I don't think I've seen a Steenstra pot with this decoration, although I have seen some Rhodes ones, but they were made from Brick Clay.
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Post  haselnuss on Sun 12 Oct - 14:59

Ev, have a look at the brown/off white Steenstra vase that I posted. It has the bumpy bit on the off white part and the crisp lines.
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 12 Oct - 15:19

Ev, the colour on your vase is a lot brighter than the ewer. It actually looks quite nice.
This chattering is becoming quite recognisable.
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Re: For gallery handpotted Beach Artware

Post  Ev on Sun 12 Oct - 15:25

haselnuss wrote:Ev, have a look at the brown/off white Steenstra vase that I posted. It has the bumpy bit on the off white part and the crisp lines.

Yes I agree with you now haselnuss ..... Thanks as it's hard to pick out because of the white glaze.
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Re: For gallery handpotted Beach Artware

Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 12 Oct - 16:35

Thanks, haselnuss, for sharing you Steenstra pot here.

When Val talked to Steve Fullmer he told her that Daniel Steenstra taught the other hand-potters at Beach Artware his koru technique for the lids so presumably he taught them a lot more than that. It would be nice to assume that the grooved and/or chittered Beach pieces were Steenstra himself, as it would mean that Ev, Mike and I had acquired Steenstra pieces on the cheap, but unfortunately we will need more specific information to make such an attribution. I'm easy with that: I just love my uranium orange!

I hope we get some more information from Steve Fullmer.
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Re: For gallery handpotted Beach Artware

Post  Ev on Mon 13 Oct - 10:17

As you were!! This decoration technique is called CHATTERING !!
I was incorrectly corrected Shocked My fault for listening Razz
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Mon 13 Oct - 10:46

That makes more sense. When I first saw you use "chattering" I thought of the same word used for vibration in machinery from play between moving parts, as though there is a conversation going on. Very evocative.
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The "P" marks - another glaze?

Post  Maryr on Wed 15 Oct - 11:12

These soup whatsits look very similar in shape. The greyish one has a 'P' mark... like some of the hand potted ware we think is Beach.  I have also posted my 'P' jug for comparison of marks. Soups (across the top opening) are 11 cm (brown) and 12 cm (grey).  The jug is 15 cm high.









Also here is a nice collection of the jugs in green. LOVE this ware!  Jugs are 10 cm -10.5 cm high. Same theme, all slightly different. Very similar in style to the big ewer in the Whangarei hospice shop that Jeremy posted.
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Post  Ev on Thu 16 Oct - 15:50

News Flash !!!!
I have photos of Beach Artware stamp on an orangish pot. !!!!! Hope to post later.
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blue-green coffee canister

Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 16 Oct - 16:08

Beach Artware blue-green coffee canister.



All the usual stuff. This is still smaller than Val's orange "Tea".
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Post  Maryr on Thu 16 Oct - 18:57

Ev. Mate. So looking forward to seeing this sticker. I am agog!
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Post  Ev on Thu 16 Oct - 19:02

It's stamped into the clay Val ..... so exciting and I've given it a new topic!!!  
Also this friend that alerted me to the Beach also had this dinosaur jug .... which is extremely weird, but we already have one on here.



Plus it has a P on the base ..
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 16 Oct - 20:21

I should have mentioned in my previous post that Val and I took our orange to Antiques Club last night, in part at least because we had a speaker talking about uranium glass.

At least two people I talked to during the evening said that they had the exact same pottery at home in regular use. One of them said it was her mother's and she's keeping it. Popular in Whangarei! Actually I've been to both their houses and it would have mean nothing to me at the time: I have absolutely no memory of it.
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Wine set in greens

Post  Ev on Thu 23 Oct - 18:22

Well today I found a 7 piece Wine Set in this style with chattering in the green glaze like the ones in Whangarei. A large heavy wine bottle and 6 long stemmed goblets. I didn't get it as it was $75, but I have to say that I was tempted to. The handle on the wine bottle is a hoot as it is so robust and strong it will never come off. The proprietor said that this ware is quite common, but he didn't know who made it.
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I think this is a Dipping Bowl ..

Post  Ev on Sun 26 Oct - 12:59

One of these days all of this will fall into place!!

I found what I guess is a little dipping bowl 84mm across and it has a lip in this distinctive brown and gold glaze. The clay is a pale yellow colour.



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Post  Ev on Wed 29 Oct - 7:14

A Trademe Beach Artware listing, something you don't see very often!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=799983412
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Wed 29 Oct - 16:15

The step at the rim would indicate that it once had a lid, would it not?
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Re: For gallery handpotted Beach Artware

Post  Ev on Wed 29 Oct - 17:19

If you mean the little dipping bowl, there is no gallery for a lid.  It has a flange for ease of picking up.  I found another today.

Perhaps you were meaning the vase? Not sure really as it is hard to tell if that is a gallery at the top.


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Orange salt pig DS

Post  Ev on Sat 1 Nov - 15:31

Orange Salt Pig with initials DS.  This has been hand thrown and is made out of a low fire terracotta type clay.  It has had felt put on the base, which I will leave as it is glued fast.  I'm not sure if it belongs in this topic ....?





The unglazed inside.  About a quarter of the inside is glazed in the orange glaze.


The DS mark which looks like it has been put on using small stamps ..

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Margarine

Post  Ev on Sun 2 Nov - 13:45

This Margarine pot definitely belongs in this thread.
The gallery for the lid is glazed and the clay is that yellowish colour that we often see.
It is a very handsome pot in it's dark green colours!



The koru under the knob on the lid ..


The base showing the yellowish clay..
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Re: For gallery handpotted Beach Artware

Post  Jeremy Ashford on Sun 2 Nov - 20:13

Ev, re my most recent comment I was referring to the "vase" on tm.

The orange certainly looks like it belongs, so perhaps the initials are from one of the Beach hand potters. As Val has told me that uranium was dropped for lead, I'm thinking that if there is a choice involved, then perhaps the shiny orange is the uranium glaze and the matt lead. It certainly looks the colour of lead primer.

Love the green!
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Post  Ev on Sun 2 Nov - 20:31

Yes I worked out that you were referring to the vase on Trademe Jeremy.
When I say that I don't think the orange salt pig belongs in this thread, it's because of the clay used, which is nothing like any of the other clay used in here. It is definitely hand potted. Lead is very poisonous as I imagine uranium to be and potters have been using leadless glazes since I started potting in the early 70's. There are poisonous Cadmium and Selenium commercial low fired glazes that give fabulous red, yellow and orange glazes, but cannot be used on anything that would come in contact with food. The orange on this salt pig is not one of those, but the clay is low fire and the glaze will be too. It's odd that I've never come across this glaze until we started researching Beach Artware.
I am sure of nothing except the odd piece that is stamped Beach Artware, the rest I am waiting for some sign of the maker including the orange handpotted ware.
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Post  Ev on Mon 3 Nov - 8:14

I just want to recap the initials that we have come across so far on this possible Beach pottery.

P some handwritten and some stamped using stamps on the base of the pot.
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5604p45-for-gallery-handpotted-beach-artware
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5604p60-for-gallery-handpotted-beach-artware

D C handwritten into the clay base.
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5604p30-for-gallery-handpotted-beach-artware

D S stamped using stamps on the lower side of the pot.
http://www.newzealandpottery.net/t5604p60-for-gallery-handpotted-beach-artware

The P could represent Paul Beach who worked at the pottery as someone suggested.
If only we had some other names to match up with the other letters.

So far we only have three names of potters who worked there.
Paul Beach
Daniel Steenstra
Steve Fullmer
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Post  Jeremy Ashford on Thu 6 Nov - 10:47

As a follow up to the orange Beach Val and I took to Antiques club, here are two pieces from club member Norma Jowett, inherited from her mother.

Sugar
crimp edge sugar bowl, ca 10cm OD, hand potted, shiny glaze w fine crazing

This was a wow for me as I was expecting to see the shape from Beach one day. The similar shape from Clay Craft always struck me as odd and I assumed it dated from Beach days. Perfect condition. Very very light: an indication of the potter's skill I think. The CC ones, being slip, are way heavier.

Canister
double-bellied canister w lid, ca 15cm H to rim, hand potted, matt glaze

A wonderful new shape, very sculptural, and also in perfect nick.

Both are flat bottomed and there are no marks on either.


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Post  Ev on Thu 6 Nov - 10:55

Ev wrote:
The DS mark which looks like it has been put on using small stamps ..

Could DS stand for Daniel Steenstra Shocked Suspect What a Face clown alien
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